Herman does about twice the m85nutes of Sue and about 3 times better

Herman's stats were outstanding last season and would have been even better in a stronger team. He'd walk into the first choice 17 of every club in sl

You say Bout goading and top trumps but when you claim the likes of Brown, Wynne and Kershaw are young prospects I’m sorry but you lost any debate on that statement alone. The likes of Hardaker, Sezer, Holmes and Rapana have been signed to pass on valuable experience to the young players coming through and won’t block the path of progression. Signing the likes of Wynne, Kershaw and now Ruan blocks the path of any potential talent you may have.

You say Bout goading and top trumps but when you claim the likes of Brown, Wynne and Kershaw are young prospects I’m sorry but you lost any debate on that statement alone. The likes of Hardaker, Sezer, Holmes and Rapana have been signed to pass on valuable experience to the young players coming through and won’t block the path of progression. Signing the likes of Wynne, Kershaw and now Ruan blocks the path of any potential talent you may have.

brown and wynne are very much still prospects, lets not backtrack now, youre gonna end up regretting ti like hadley and litten

Have you got someone who looks after you?

Connor Wynne, at 23 years old, is still a prospect?

I'm going to have to disagree with the Labour Government and say we are clearly not winning the war on drugs.

Why would Hull regret letting Hadley go? He couldn't get in the team when he was here. He had Sika Manu, Minichiello, Washrook all in front of him. Similar with Abdull who had Sneyd, Kelly and Connor in front of him.

Litten you could make a case for, but Peters hardly trusts him either. Preferred Parcell the last 2 seasons and he's brought in Leyland and Mcillorum this off season.

I wouldn't say we regret losing Litten and Hadley at the time neither were close to being regular first team players.

Hadley had Mark Minichiello (international captain) Sika Manu (international captain) Frank Pritchard (international captain) and Gareth Ellis (one of the best forwards in the world) in front of him so his chances were limited to say the least, he also had a lot of niggling injuries but was always solid at Hull but couldn't get a look in and ended up on loan at Wakey.

Litten was behind Houghton (vice captain, Man of steel and double challenge cup winner) who played 80 minutes nearly every week and hardly ever missed a game.

I'm glad they've both made decent careers out for themselves it's always good to see our youth do well even if it's not always with us.

Wynne could be decent but needs to find a position and get a run at super league level. Brown unfortunately isn't big enough to become a top line prop.

Think you need to ease off the glue if you seriously think Brown or Wynne are young prospects let’s not forget you also classed Kershaw as a young prospect . The facts are signings of the likes of Wynne, Kershaw & Ruan hamper rather than enhance your squad and more than likely hamper the progress of youth coming through.

I have no issue with Hadley going or Litten at the time as neither were going to get a regular spot in the 17 so certainly have no regrets on those two.

As for let’s not back track now……. I haven’t nor will I back track but you have proven by digging your heels in your belief thaf Brown, Wynne & Kershaw are young prospects……..

I seriously doubt you will get many FC fans agreeing that Brown or Wynne or prospects in any shape or form.

I suggest you put the glue down, step away from your keyboard and get some fresh air.

Try again,this time in English

Think the translation is: I've been made to look a right plonker so now I'm going to disappear.

The Dobbins have a recent inflated sense of importance. Shame they haven’t got an inflated sense of intelligence.

Shows you the standard they must operate under on their secret forum.

Bye then…

You really like to stretch the bounds of reality don’t you, no one mentioned drugs or the taking of them.

As for banter????? You lack any credibility with your belief about the young prospects you named then mentioned back tracking. It certainly isn’t getting to me

By the way I’m not your mate either, I have standards

Any chance we can get back to talking about Hull FC?

Thank for that. Ta da.