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| Quote: IR80 "You are right, if you had been tested positive for Covid six weeks ago, and then got hit by a bus, Covid would be on the death certificate.
The whole thing, worldwide, is somewhat of a fudge. Be interesting to see comparable figures for alcoholism and smoking and road accidents.'"
That is not true. The following is included in the instructions to doctors about completing a death certificate.
“ You should also enter any other diseases, injuries, conditions, or events that contributed to the death, but were not part of the direct sequence, in part two of the certificate. The conditions mentioned in part two must be known or suspected to have contributed to the death, not merely be other conditions which were present at the time.”
The only reason therefore that Covid would appear on the DC if it was considered to have played a part in the accident. |
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| Quote: Keiththered "Seems only to relate to deaths in hospital.'"
Yes it does, but they are verifiable statistics are they not, and now you're being pedantic. Those statistics highlight that the virus is not as dangerous as first thought and as someone else has said, amongst those that did or didn't die in hospital because they had had a positive test in the previous 28 days it goes on the covid stats, regardless of whether they had recovered from it. |
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Quote: IR80 "You are right, if you had been tested positive for Covid six weeks ago, and then got hit by a bus, Covid would be on the death certificate.
The whole thing, worldwide, is somewhat of a fudge. Be interesting to see comparable figures for alcoholism and smoking and road accidents.'"
If you look on https://www.worldometers.info/
When I checked at 1553hrs. today, there had been 9,070 deaths, worldwide, TODAY, caused by smoking and just shy of 2,000 worldwide from Coronavirus. |
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Quote: IR80 "You are right, if you had been tested positive for Covid six weeks ago, and then got hit by a bus, Covid would be on the death certificate.
The whole thing, worldwide, is somewhat of a fudge. Be interesting to see comparable figures for alcoholism and smoking and road accidents.'"
If you look on https://www.worldometers.info/
When I checked at 1553hrs. today, there had been 9,070 deaths, worldwide, TODAY, caused by smoking and just shy of 2,000 worldwide from Coronavirus. | |
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Makes you wonder how easily transmitted the virus actually is, no Salford players have caught it so far!! Which seems strange considering the psychical contact of the game
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| Quote: MorningGlory23 "Makes you wonder how easily transmitted the virus actually is, no Salford players have caught it so far!! Which seems strange considering the psychical contact of the game'"
12 players and staff contracting coronavirus suggests to me that it is highly contagious. (The current strain is much worse than the original.)
Salford's testing suggests that our players were not contagious during the game. That in turn could mean they didn't catch it until after the game, but testing positive less than 24 hours later seems a bit unlikely to me. |
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| Quote: ccs "12 players and staff contracting coronavirus suggests to me that it is highly contagious. (The current strain is much worse than the original.)
Salford's testing suggests that our players were not contagious during the game. That in turn could mean they didn't catch it until after the game, but testing positive less than 24 hours later seems a bit unlikely to me.'"
Well I fully expect the whole off the Salford team and the rest of the hull team to test positive then or like you say we turned the contagious switch off for 80 mins during the game |
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| Quote: MorningGlory23 "Makes you wonder how easily transmitted the virus actually is, no Salford players have caught it so far!! Which seems strange considering the psychical contact of the game'"
Not much physical contact in Hulls defence |
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| Quote: bonaire "Not much physical contact in Hulls defence'"
Your not wrong |
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| Quote: Large Paws "Yes it does, but they are verifiable statistics are they not, and now you're being pedantic. Those statistics highlight that the virus is not as dangerous as first thought and as someone else has said, amongst those that did or didn't die in hospital because they had had a positive test in the previous 28 days it goes on the covid stats, regardless of whether they had recovered from it.'"
Not pedantic at all. Just like Trump you say what supports your argument whether it is the whole truth or not |
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| Quote: Keiththered "Not pedantic at all. Just like Trump you say what supports your argument whether it is the whole truth or not'"
You asked for stats, I gave you some to peruse. You don't like what they say, that's your prerogative. |
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Quote: Large Paws "I didn't say any had been quoted did I?
I was referring to the statistics and facts that are readily available, to anyone with an internet connection, and which show that the virus isn't as deadly as first thought.
I'll give you one STAT for starters.
Up to the 31st July this year, there had only been 300 deaths recorded of a person under 60 years of age, from/with Covid, when no other condition/co-morbidity was present.
So the FACT is that a healthy person who catches the virus is very unlikely to die from/with it..'"
ONS: - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... napril2020
“In April 2020 in England, 37.0% of all deaths occurring were a result of COVID-19. When broken down by sex, this was 41.6% of all deaths for males and 32.4% of all deaths for females. When looking at the proportion by age group, the highest proportion of deaths due to COVID-19 was in age group 75 to 84 years, with 40.1% of all deaths in this age group having an underlying cause of COVID-19. For males, the highest proportion of deaths due to COVID-19 was in age group 45 to 64 years (44.3%), whereas for females it was age group 75 to 84 years (36.5%).”
“ There were 33,841 deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) that occurred between 1 March and 30 April 2020 registered up to 5 May 2020 in England and Wales; of these, 32,143 (95.0%) had COVID-19 assigned as the underlying cause of death.”
So up to April there were 33,841 deaths of which the highest proportion of deaths was in the age group 45 to 64 for males. Where does your figure of 300 deaths for those under 60 come from? |
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Quote: Large Paws "I didn't say any had been quoted did I?
I was referring to the statistics and facts that are readily available, to anyone with an internet connection, and which show that the virus isn't as deadly as first thought.
I'll give you one STAT for starters.
Up to the 31st July this year, there had only been 300 deaths recorded of a person under 60 years of age, from/with Covid, when no other condition/co-morbidity was present.
So the FACT is that a healthy person who catches the virus is very unlikely to die from/with it..'"
ONS: - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... napril2020
“In April 2020 in England, 37.0% of all deaths occurring were a result of COVID-19. When broken down by sex, this was 41.6% of all deaths for males and 32.4% of all deaths for females. When looking at the proportion by age group, the highest proportion of deaths due to COVID-19 was in age group 75 to 84 years, with 40.1% of all deaths in this age group having an underlying cause of COVID-19. For males, the highest proportion of deaths due to COVID-19 was in age group 45 to 64 years (44.3%), whereas for females it was age group 75 to 84 years (36.5%).”
“ There were 33,841 deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) that occurred between 1 March and 30 April 2020 registered up to 5 May 2020 in England and Wales; of these, 32,143 (95.0%) had COVID-19 assigned as the underlying cause of death.”
So up to April there were 33,841 deaths of which the highest proportion of deaths was in the age group 45 to 64 for males. Where does your figure of 300 deaths for those under 60 come from? | |
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| Quote: Plum Bob "ONS: -
The NHS data for deaths in hospital, follow the link provided in my post.
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| Quote: Large Paws "The NHS data for deaths in hospital, follow the link provided in my post.'"
Typical Trumpism. Deaths in hospital show only part of the picture. |
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Quote: Large Paws "The NHS data for deaths in hospital, follow the link provided in my post.'"
I posted mine before reading your later posts with the information. However, even then using the NHS statistics the deaths in your age range are still higher than the figure you quote.
Here’s an interesting take on it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... SApp_Other |
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Quote: Large Paws "The NHS data for deaths in hospital, follow the link provided in my post.'"
I posted mine before reading your later posts with the information. However, even then using the NHS statistics the deaths in your age range are still higher than the figure you quote.
Here’s an interesting take on it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... SApp_Other | |
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| Quote: Keiththered "Typical Trumpism. Deaths in hospital show only part of the picture.'"
Typical Leftist political view. See verifiable statistics and refuse to believe them.
Nowhere have I said that the figures represent the whole picture, just that these are the NHS stats. |
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