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Quote: knocker norton "My argument was that Tansey rightly came back into the full back role because he is our best full back. Not sure of your point BDT do you think Calderwood should NOT come straight back in or do you think Agar should have left Whiting out of the squad?'"


My arguement at the time was that Whiting shouldn't have been dropped out of the 13 for Tansey and if anything Whiting should have been moved to centre at the expense of Hall. You're arguement back was that it was more beneficial to have Whiting on the bench as utility to cover Berro's spells. icon_wink.gif

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Dont get all this drop Briscoe nonsense

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Quote: Big Dave T "My arguement at the time was that Whiting shouldn't have been dropped out of the 13 for Tansey and if anything Whiting should have been moved to centre at the expense of Hall. You're arguement back was that it was more beneficial to have Whiting on the bench as utility to cover Berro's spells.
Hmmm. I thought Whiting was more beneficial because of the poor form Houghton was showing and we had Hall playing well in his natural centre position. Did Hall deserve replacing from the centre after the Quins game? I dont think he did. My main point was that Tansey should have come back in simply because he is our best number 1 and was in good form before he served his suspension.

The current predicament is simple. Calderwood is back on the right wing and Whiting and Hall are vying for the right centre berth (both are right centres!) so I guess it is a case of who deserves the shirt this week and will they play well enough to keep it.

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Quote: knocker norton "Hmmm. I thought Whiting was more beneficial because of the poor form Houghton was showing and we had Hall playing well in his natural centre position. Did Hall deserve replacing from the centre after the Quins game? I dont think he did. My main point was that Tansey should have come back in simply because he is our best number 1 and was in good form before he served his suspension.

The current predicament is simple. Calderwood is back on the right wing and Whiting and Hall are vying for the right centre berth (both are right centres!) so I guess it is a case of who deserves the shirt this week and will they play well enough to keep it.'"


Fair enough, Hall deserves the shirt but has been used as the scapegoat again imo. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Kosh "A tricky assessment to make when Hall has hardly played in his specialist position.'"


For me both Hall & Whiting are good players and both have different attributes to their respective games, for me I prefer Whiting as I think he is a much more solid and alround player but Hall is a very good attacking player and to be fair his defence has improved.

ATEOTD the fact is that 2 does not go into one and inevitably one of them is going to miss out at some stage not through anything other than its a team game and we can only use 17.

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id be tempted to play turner at right centre instead of whiting

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Quote: Big Dave T "Fair enough, Hall deserves the shirt but has been used as the scapegoat again imo.
Ideally Hall gets the centre shirt and keeps it by playing so well that dropping or moving him to cover doesnt become an option for Agar. His try scoring ratio is first class.

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Quote: arliebird "id be tempted to play turner at right centre instead of whiting'"


I agree with that for Friday night.

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Quote: knocker norton "Ideally Hall gets the centre shirt and keeps it by playing so well that dropping or moving him to cover doesnt become an option for Agar. His try scoring ratio is first class.'"


I just find it intolerable that Agar plays him FB last year and ruins his confidence and drops him and then plays him on the wing to cover this season and drops him following a terrible team performance. (and poor inside sliding defence)

I've said right since pre-season that Hall should be our left centre and to be fair he's looked top drawer at right centre. Knee jerk reaction from Agar that i dont support one bit.

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Whiting has had a good season so far. He's made a few mistakes, but I can't think of a single player (other than maybe Fitz) who has been flawless. All in all, he's done more than enough to justify his selection, and I hope he vindicates the decision with another good performance on Friday.

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Id worry more about why we persist on playing tom on the wing leaving him to be exposed to the barrage of high bombs he will probably get off orford this week, think he is a centre not a winger

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Quote: biffa.fc "Id worry more about why we persist on playing tom on the wing leaving him to be exposed to the barrage of high bombs he will probably get off orford this week, think he is a centre not a winger'"


Long term i agree he is, think for this season it's a case of needing him to play on the wing due to lack of other options. We just dont use him right. How many passes has he actually had this year? If he scored 2 tries through getting decent ball and then dropped 1 bomb he would be forgiven.

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true Dave but just hope he doesnt develop the same confidence problem that craig hall has developed through been played out of position

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Quote: knocker norton "Hmmm. I thought Whiting was more beneficial because of the poor form Houghton was showing and we had Hall playing well in his natural centre position. Did Hall deserve replacing from the centre after the Quins game? I dont think he did. My main point was that Tansey should have come back in simply because he is our best number 1 and was in good form before he served his suspension.

The current predicament is simple. Calderwood is back on the right wing and Whiting and Hall are vying for the right centre berth (both are right centres!) so I guess it is a case of who deserves the shirt this week and will they play well enough to keep it.'"


Disagree with that. Hall has looked good there this year, but IMO he's always looked much more at ease at left centre. And still, arguably his finest moment this season came when he switched flanks.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Disagree with that. Hall has looked good there this year, but IMO he's always looked much more at ease at left centre. And still, arguably his finest moment this season came when he switched flanks.'"


I actually said Hall didnt deserve dropping after the Quins game to accomodate Whiting in the starting 13!

I would like to see Hall cement the starting centre position as much as anyone.

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