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| Quote rich1977="rich1977"the extra wide running second row as we have been using (ala all teams now because the Ausies do it must be right)'"
Well, yes. Their record for the past 30+ years shows that they know what they're doing.
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"Well, yes. Their record for the past 30+ years shows that they know what they're doing.'"
So they've tupped us at every available opportunity because they play 3 second rowers? Or because they generally produce a better standard of player, and in greater numbers, in each of the key positions?
Either way, we're not talking about international games, we're talking about what will be best for Hull. I agree with rich1977. Washy is basically another second rower and that's where I'd play him. Whiting has the potential to be every bit as important to our attacking structure next season as Nelson Mandella was in his pomp.
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| Nelson Mandela played for hull?
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"Well, yes. Their record for the past 30+ years shows that they know what they're doing.'"
Ah yes they are excellent at their brand of RL. But its always astute to look at who are doing better overall than you are, and cherry pick what can improve you. Not to become a carbon copy. That is what the game has been trying to do here.
Hence we have seen any real creativity slowly squeezed out of our game. You only have to look at the lack of proper SH's to see that.
I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about this subject after seeing how well Richard played on Saturday. He needs to be given a pivotal role. Lets face it, we have nout to loose have we??
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| Quote Stanley Unwin="Stanley Unwin"Nelson Mandela played for hull?'"
Nelson Mandella = Stella.
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| Most people going OTT as regards Whiting again,he has decent utility value,but unfortunately isn't good enough to hold down a permanant position in our team,his best chance is the loose forward spot,but IMO Washbrook is better.
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| Quote Stanley Unwin="Stanley Unwin"Nelson Mandela played for hull?'"
See the rumours thread
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| Quote Carlotti="Carlotti"Most people going OTT as regards Whiting again,he has decent utility value,but unfortunately isn't good enough to hold down a permanant position in our team,his best chance is the loose forward spot,but IMO Washbrook is better.'"
If he can shake the injury curse that has plagued him since he won young player of the year I think he will prove you wrong (about holding down a place). As for who is better, he or Washy: I think they are both excellent players with entirely different styles. I sometimes wonder if we have room for both on the same pitch. It's a bit like the dilemma of playing Lampard and Gerrard for England - you want them both in your side because they're so good but it's a complete waste of an opportunity to bring a talented player into another position giving you a more rounded team. This is based upon them both being 13s by the way.
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| Quote Carlotti="Carlotti"Most people going OTT as regards Whiting again,he has decent utility value,but unfortunately isn't good enough to hold down a permanant position in our team,'"
Berrigan aside, he's got the best RL brain at the club. He's been desperately unlucky with injuries and if he can break that cycle, he has every chance of being in the team on a regular basis.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Berrigan aside, he's got the best RL brain at the club. He's been desperately unlucky with injuries and if he can break that cycle, he has every chance of being in the team on a regular basis.'"
For me, whitings biggest issues are that he isn't quick enough to stand put as a back or big enough to stand out as a forward. He's a very clever player and maybe he'll shine as he gets older and bigger and cements a place in the back row
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| I think that when you're an injured player at Hull FC your value amongst the supporters becomes far greater all of sudden.
I think Richard Whiting has become a superstar amongst some of how fans. All this talk about him been the best at this & that is very premature imo.
None of you have seen enough of him in the loose forward role to say he's better than Washbrook or in the stand off role to say he's better than Horne. We have on the other hand seen him at centre and I think we all know that centre isn't his position.
Whiting is a very good player to have in your squad because he can cover a lot of positions adequatly but as yet I don't think any of us know that he is ready to hold down a starting place in a certain position let along be the best option in that position.
I suppose if this season we have nothing to play for and Washy been injured it could be a chance to play in the loose forward position for a length of time and see how he goes.
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| Quote Suzie="Suzie"I think that when you're an injured player at Hull FC your value amongst the supporters becomes far greater all of sudden.
I think Richard Whiting has become a superstar amongst some of how fans. All this talk about him been the best at this & that is very premature imo.
None of you have seen enough of him in the loose forward role to say he's better than Washbrook or in the stand off role to say he's better than Horne. We have on the other hand seen him at centre and I think we all know that centre isn't his position.
This year would have been the ideal time to find out with Washy being injured, but Dipstick decided to play Radforld there.
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