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Mixed views on this!

Pleased with the effort and commitment once more, can't fault anyone on that score, but gutted to lose in that fashion.

Think the difference in the end was the quality gap between the two sides. If you take Williams and Dufty out of their line-up then we most likely come away with a win. We all know this isn't the greatest squad we've ever seen, but games like today bring out our inadequacies into the harsh light.

The possession and territory we had at times was squandered because we simply lack the quality to exploit it, although I did think Wire's defensive line was very resolute and even sides better than us may have struggled to break them down.

Either way, I feel a good deal more positive than I did a few weeks backs, so we are seeing some lifting of the mood from the first three months of the season. Let's hope the remaining games bring a little cheer for us all.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Williams the difference today. As hasbag says, a genuine gamebreaker.

The improvements from Hull are clear though, I think the side from earlier in the season lose by 30+ today. Aydin was really impressive, not far off an 80 minute performance. Ashworth very good too but another worrying injury.

Why did Chan not play, anyone know? Injured or just not selected?

Whilst it was a shame not to see Cartwright I totally get why he wasn't selected. There's no rush, by the time of the Salford game he'll have had almost three weeks to settle in. Hopefully by then too we'll have added another import.'"



Hope Ashworths injury isn’t too bad as thought other than the offload at the start of the 2nd half he was very good again today and made good metres. Though to be fair the off load was on but the timing/execution was off.

On fitness I think we look a lot fitter than we did under Smith and we look a lot more committed and together as a team.

Balmforth has to be in the 17 as he has done more in the 2 games than most have done all season in terms giving us direction and an attacking threat.

It would be criminal if we don’t or haven’t offered him a deal as he will more than likely be a very good player over the years.

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Quote: mwindass "You adding sleep expert to your list of skills? The guy had 1 session due to jet lag. No point rushing him back if he's not ready'"


Yes another one. A specialist in the subject of the circadian rhythm.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Is there anything you're not an expert on?'"


Jamie Shaul playing hooker.

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Quote: mwindass "Had every right to throw the towel in today but didn’t. Lost Scott and Ashworth. Sao was struggling. Briscoe went off with a HIA. But was in it until the last 2 minutes.

Gutted with the loss but Wires game breakers got them over the line.

Think Aydin has been a good buy for us. Must've played 70+ minutes in the middle'"


Aydin is an upgrade on Brown for sure.

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Can't fault the effort today and we are definitely fitter than we were but we are so dumb at times and there is no leadership on the pitch.

I've been disappointed with trueman who has done nothing g when we're in good field position. We had so much ball in their 20 metre area we should have won comfortably but we really lack I the basics of the game. We're crying out for some pace but sign a couple of donkeys in hardaker and Chamberlain.

The forwards are doing g their job but the half's and centres really not doing enough in attack.

Lots better than we were though.

We have probably dicked balmforth around over a new contract and he's gone elsewhere. Maybe rovers who are after a hooker

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Quote: Costadelsolbill "The problem there is Smith pinched it against London, we beat Leeds and came very close to beating warrington'"


At least Smith beat London…came close doesn’t get 2pts.

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "And we lose ball on 3rd tackle in their 10m'"
Is that It? Only two negative opinions, surely you can produce more than that?

Still, at least you can find more negatives than positives from today. That'll keep you going for another week a least.

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Quote: The games afoot "What are people’s thoughts on Trueman?…barring a couple of games,I don’t really get it with him..I know injuries have disrupted his time here but would we be better with a quota 7 if we could get one with Abdul or having effectively two 6’s in the half’s next season…genuine question.'"


Its a good question
I watched Trueman quite a bit at Castleford before his injury and never got the hype although he did run the ball more there and had a bit of pace but was never fast.
I have mentioned before that he has lost that bit of pace whilst he has been here, hardly ever runs the ball, and was made to look a lot better player when Clifford was here as he carried the half back partnership.
I like to see a running halfback but we certainly wont have one with Abdul and Trueman.
I wouldnt extend his contract and i dont think S/L clubs would be queing up for his services.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Williams the difference today. As hasbag says, a genuine gamebreaker.

The improvements from Hull are clear though, I think the side from earlier in the season lose by 30+ today. Aydin was really impressive, not far off an 80 minute performance. Ashworth very good too but another worrying injury.

Why did Chan not play, anyone know? Injured or just not selected?

Whilst it was a shame not to see Cartwright I totally get why he wasn't selected. There's no rush, by the time of the Salford game he'll have had almost three weeks to settle in. Hopefully by then too we'll have added another import.'"


Three weeks to settle in but will he have enough time to get over his jet lag?

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Quote: mwindass "You adding sleep expert to your list of skills? The guy had 1 session due to jet lag. No point rushing him back if he's not ready'"


Jet lag?

New research strongly suggests that exercise could be an effective jet lag cure. Here are the best ways to exercise to reset your sleep.
Not going to cut and paste all that but suggest you and your pals read some of the articles that are available.

Plenty of evidence from professional people suggests that exercise is an effective cure for Jet lag and he is an athlete correct?
Certainly i dont like the flight from Australia and you do feel crap when you get back but i can guarantee if you are prepared to do some running and excercise you will recover a lot faster
No reason why Cartwright couldnt have done a 40 minute spell today especially as we are so short in the second row and given the club have a two week break after today

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Impressed with the improvements in defence, fitness and general attitude but sadly I do suspect that is as good as we can be with the squad we have.

Still lots of daft errors and on a hot day we saw how lacking in pace the team is. But the biggest thing is I felt entertained and that's all I can ask for until better players arrive.

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Quote: bonaire "Its a good question
I watched Trueman quite a bit at Castleford before his injury and never got the hype although he did run the ball more there and had a bit of pace but was never fast.
I have mentioned before that he has lost that bit of pace whilst he has been here, hardly ever runs the ball, and was made to look a lot better player when Clifford was here as he carried the half back partnership.
I like to see a running halfback but we certainly wont have one with Abdul and Trueman.
I wouldnt extend his contract and i dont think S/L clubs would be queing up for his services.'"


Agree, Sneyd and Kelly were the perfect partnership as one was the organiser with a great kicking game but don't move that much the other fast and completely unpredictable. Next year we risk Abdull being static and Trueman just ineffective.

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Quote: bonaire "Jet lag?

New research strongly suggests that exercise could be an effective jet lag cure. Here are the best ways to exercise to reset your sleep.
Not going to cut and paste all that but suggest you and your pals read some of the articles that are available.

Plenty of evidence from professional people suggests that exercise is an effective cure for Jet lag and he is an athlete correct?
Certainly i dont like the flight from Australia and you do feel crap when you get back but i can guarantee if you are prepared to do some running and excercise you will recover a lot faster
No reason why Cartwright couldnt have done a 40 minute spell today especially as we are so short in the second row and given the club have a two week break after today'"

I've been hearing murmurings that Cartwright has a bit of a back issue. If that's the case then him not playing is the right decision. He has 2 weeks now to recover and get ready to play

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Quote: bonaire "Jet lag?

New research strongly suggests that exercise could be an effective jet lag cure. Here are the best ways to exercise to reset your sleep.
Not going to cut and paste all that but suggest you and your pals read some of the articles that are available.

Plenty of evidence from professional people suggests that exercise is an effective cure for Jet lag and he is an athlete correct?
Certainly i dont like the flight from Australia and you do feel crap when you get back but i can guarantee if you are prepared to do some running and excercise you will recover a lot faster
No reason why Cartwright couldnt have done a 40 minute spell today especially as we are so short in the second row and given the club have a two week break after today'"


A bit of a difference between exercise (which he will have done at training mid week) and playing even forty minutes of professional rugby league but clearly you know better than the club's medical staff.

I absolutely guarantee that if he had played today and not looked fit or didn't make much impact you'd have been on here moaning that the club rushed him and should have left him for the Salford game.

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