Not every post has to be slating Lee Radford.

Stating the obvious the second half performance against Leeds was embarrassing and they just give up (not all) so why did it change in second half?Can not be all down to the coach ..can it? Were Warrington and the Giants poor and made us look better? If Radford is sacked have we got the players for another coach to change things ?If we have then Pearson has to act but for me the players need to take a long hard look at themselves and quicker the better

And how many, after nilling Hudds and playing well against Wire, were praising Lee for turning things round a little? He was favourite for the sack first, and Hull were picked by each pundit for the bottom 4, yet 2 good performances in and all was sweetness and light. The vast majority of fans were happy.

In all fairness, Warrington, Huddersfield, Leeds & Salford....pretty hard first 4 games, including Wigan for 5, what results would we have expected against them last year? Radford should leave however Pearson will also see it as a very tough start therefore may be waiting until we play a few mid-table sides to get a better view of where we are at maybe?

Hudds is the only good performance. Warrington we was ok but in all honesty Warrington just did enough to beat us and always looked the better side. they also had an eye on the week after. Salford - rubbish, Leeds - appauling. If some of you are happy then go for it

Nope not happy at all, just may be what Pearson is thinking! Leeds would have beat any team in that second half - but Radford as a coach shouldn't have let that happen and he should have motivated them being 12-0 up at half time...but like i said he may just be waiting to see how we do against similar opposition

There's quite a big difference there. We were scraping into the 8 after making finals and threatening to establish ourselves amongst the top sides, with a strong, expensive-looking squad. Noble 'scraped' the 8 with a club who had only existed for 5 years, were in only their 2nd season in SL (finishing bottom in their first), with a team assembled in a few weeks, after taking the job in circumstances that included the owner walking away and 6 of their squad being deported. It is so far (and possibly will forever be) the only time that club has finished higher than bottom of the top flight. It was not even close to being the same as Hull coaches (and even the previous board) have been criticised for, it was a season of significant overachievement in difficult circumstances compared to years of underachievement.

Poor AP

He has tried to put a winning team in place and has come up short, getting a winning coaching team in place is the aim of every sporting club. I can not think of any other RL club that has over the last nine years failed to put together a winning formula with such consistency, its like we are setting out to fail. AP was always up against it due to the previous owners having run out of credibility with the fan base, that same owners that saved our club from oblivion I may add. I do think that the hardest job in RL is being coach at either Wigan or FC as the fan base are very vocal and not backward at coming forward when they either think or know that things are not right.

I do not think Lee Radford is a bad coach, I do think he made head coach a tad too quick and when things go wrong and at FC they go wrong every week he has very little experience to draw back on. Was Gentle sacked a bit hastily, I think he was with hindsight and that decision will haunt us for a long time. Lee will in time grow into probably a good coach if he is allowed too, he has not got the time at FC as a few more losses and a derby loss will almost certainly be the end of his reign. AP can saay what ever he wants about having the "faith" at the end of the day when the crowds, sales start to fall and when the crowd openly turn on both the team and coach he has not room to left. He has to act as he has done before and as previous chairman of both FC and every other sports team have always done. With our current track record I doubt many would relish taking the job on and attracting a suitable replacement would be difficult , so lets not kid ourselves we are all responsible and all victims of circumstances we are now in.

If I was AP I would try and bring in an "advisor" and yes I would go for Noble now. He has a proven track record and I think could work with Lee at the end of the day sacking him would do him and the club no good long term. Doing nothing now is not an option as the longer this goes on then the option of an advisor becomes less of an option, game on game.

The thing is though Ian, it is AP own mistakes and impetuousness that are the reason we are in the position we are right now.
We HAD a coach whom was taking us in the right direction, two solid 6th places and a Wembley appearance in Gentle's first two seasons with the youth system only just starting to kick in and on the back of Agar's tenure and the lack of investment in the club it was a near miracle.

People here have slagged off Gentle and bomber saying contracts for mates/relations and overpaid X, Y, Z player or everything that was positive was down to Radford & everything negative down to Gentle (without any substance mind) yet that team of players under PG performed vastly superior to the one last year and indeed so far this year.

I think LR is a bad coach, he'll never make it at a the top level, he just doesn't have it in ANY dept. A tad too quickly..understatement of the decade I've no faith in someone whom was complicit in the forcing out of our previous coach and not prepared to keep to his word regarding his performance and that of the team and just leaving. I've no faith in someone that scratches around for excuses and can't see his own failures.
The sad thing is, is that AP is his own worst enemy, he can't see it and before long he'll get peed off enough he'll be wanting to get us off his portfolio, he's a proper Jekyll & Hyde character.

Some decent points there Ian but also for me some not so good.
I don't know how you can say being a coach at Wigan or hull is the most difficult job I find that rather insulting do the other clubs some even larger then ourselves not demand or want the same level of success? And I'm sure the fans outside our hull FC bubble are just as vocal or vociferous.
Lee is currently a bad coach otherwise we wouldn't be in this mess. He's coached amateur rugby had very little time as an assistant and now taken a SL job all too soon for my liking.
I don't know how you can also say we are all also responsible, responsible for what exactly? Do you really believe coaches or players are deterred or put off by fans opinions? I think not and have never been convinced by that b.s.
And why do thinks go wrong on a weekly basis at hull, based on what exactly? Off the field our house is now in order, certain playing staff and coaches have been our only frailties thus far as far as I can see.
Why waste money on an advisor too if Lee isn't up for the job then he isn't up for the job. He firmly took the role believing he was.
And long term keeping Lee as a coach if results and performances don't improve seems far worse then cutting him loose sooner when our season and potential dwindling fan base can be salvaged.

I didn't want Gentle to be sacked and didn't want Radford to be appointed. Like others I believe he got the job too early.

His win ratio is pretty poor but some of our results and performances have made me think perhaps he does have what it takes but needs more time. The problem is the new format doesn't allow us to give him more time.

There is a very real risk that we could be going back to work after Easter with one win out of 9 and over a third of the season gone. We would then have no chance of making the top 8.

Pearson could hold his nerve and we might turn things round and be 4 from 9 after Easter Monday if we beat Catalans, Cas and Rovers but that's a big if (when did we last win 3 in a row?)

Alternatively Pearson could decide to pull the trigger after the next 2 or 3 games if we lose them all. However the problem then is, who does he appoint? Who is there who is any good who is immediately available?

His predicament is largely of his own making but I don't envy him having to decide what to do next.

That's the thing being fans we don't know who's out there but behind the scenes with contacts and agents I'm sure it's all different world.
Saying Lee was sacked again who knows who'll come out of the woodwork with an application.
I'd rather have that uncertainty then continue as we are.

I think that being the coach of either Wigan or FC as an hot seat, Wigan where the fans have always been demanding and want success now, not next week or next season and FC has developed that way due to the constant spin and false promises we have had in recent seasons. We are under performing and have been for year on year, with a little bit of glory here and there to keep interests higher then was really due. The difference with then and now is we are out of rope, no time left we either start performing PDQ or thousands will walk away at the end of the season. A lot of people threw there weight behind the present set up in our 150th year, a final act of faith for many and I do not think the same fans will back it up next term.

The next few weeks are so vital, I am struggling to find a win amongst our next four outings. I do not think our squad is as good as it looks on paper

4 games in and the word "crisis" bounded about says it all