2/3 years ago maybe but not now, slipped away badly i'm afraid.

Disagree'd, but we'll see eh.

Indeed. Hudds coached by Nathan Brown are a different proposition to Hudds coached by Jon Sharp.

We may not be top four material as we were 2/3 years ago but we are certainly not bottom four either, what was that about sauce!

The claim we are on par with Wire is madness.

we'l see on sunday how close we are to huddersfield!!

I personally think weve gone backwards in the last 3 years in terms of performances but a fully fit Hull squad should be challenging these top teams...its a decent set of players on paper..i no its been said time and time again but nothing will change unless the coaching is sorted out.

brown sauce i think

the squad we have is very talented and with a top coach that would get the best out of the team we would be a top 4/5 team with out doubt challenging for honours but simply we aint seeing the best from a number of players. when you look at huddersfield before brown took over the likes of robinson,brown,hodgson,griffin,mason ect these were just average english players and seen as not as good as the likes of horne,yeamen,dowes,radders ect but now those huddersfield players i named are good super league players that have progressed with some playing for england whereas you look at our players and they have all gone stale or backwards since agar has been in charge. the same can be said for wigan before maguire took over they were no better then us he takes over signs 1 player in deacon and finishes top of the league, same at wire they had a young coach in charge that wasnt good enough replace him with a good coach and now look at them they are above us in terms of sucess ect. back on to the squad when you look at the key posistions in fullback,stand off,scrum half,loose forward and hooker we need more quality but going forward we need young injury free players, obviously we have houghton at hooker westy at 13 but halfbacks and fullback needs to be sorted. team for sunday
1.whiting
2.sharp
3.turner
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.obst
7.long
8.omeley
9.houghton
10.radders
11.tickle
12.manu
13.fitzgibbon
subs
14.moa
15.lauaki
16.washy
17.westerman
thats how i see us lineing up but personally id like to see westy at 13 with fitzy on the bench

1.Whiting
2.Sharp
3.Turner
4.Yeamen
5.Briscoe
6.Obst
7.Long
8.O'Meley
9.Houghton
10.Radders
11.Tickle
12.Manu
13.Fitzgibbon
subs
14.Moa
15.Lauaki
16.Washy
17.Westerman
Bring on Westerman for Fitz, Moa and Lauaki for the two props and Washy for Houghton for 20 mins and then Fitz back on for either Manu or Tickle and vice versa for the props.

Whiting
Sharp
Turner
Yeaman
T. Briscoe
Westerman
Obst

O'Meley
Houghton
Radford
Tickle
Fitzgibbon
Cunningham

Washbrook
Manu
Lauaki
Moa

I was speaking in terms of club size rather then performance. You think Warrington is a BIGGER club then Hull FC? Really?

The whole 'big club' debate is bollox though.

It's a lot more common in football and just a tool used by clubs in decline to try and compensate for loss of status. Liverpool fans are particularly famous for it, but do you think the likes of Chelsea and Man City give a flying one about history etc when their chances of having success over the next 10 years are vastly greater than Liverpool's?

Yes, I think 100% that Wire are a bigger club, ambition wise and signing wise.

Question, have we beaten Wire to a player in recent years - No


(can I just add they own their stadium as well)