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IMO we'll struggle to make the 8 next season unless Agar manages a significant improvement in our play. The squad is unlikely to be significantly strengthened which will mean getting better performances out of the players that we have available. For me that's the test of a good coach so we'll get to see if Agar has what it takes or not.

I also happen to think that regardless of public pronouncements or popular opinion on here, getting to finals is important to the BOD - if only because it's another income stream and a significant boost to sponsorship and merchandising sales. If Agar looks like he's incapable of delivering finals then IMO he'll get the bullet.

What other teams are better than us...take away the top 4 and anything is up for grabs imo.....il wait until the "signings" are made and hope to god our half backs stay fit and we do have a back up 1....maybe then il make a prediction.

I agree, but I guess timing is everything, and these days there seems to be less movement of coaches mid season and more planned moves at season ends, announced mid season. Going by previous years' marquee signing announcements, we're probably well on with replacements for Fitz, maybe Berro and Lauaki, so this is likely to be Agar's work. If we make a reasonable start to the season, and let's not forget 6th was our lowest position this year, and we were 4th for much of it, I just wonder what the thought process by the BOD will be. I suspect the same as this, ie we're doing OK, top 4, in with a shout in the play-offs, maybe still in the cup. If we then fail to win a play-off match again, we're at a disadvantage IMO if we then decide to get rid after 4 seasons of not winning a play-off, compared to say Huddersfield who know Brown is going and will be on the front foot, if they're not already in advanced talks with coaches right now.

Am i not allowed to change my opinion?

When i was positive i genuinly believed we had the squad and the set up to go places. 3 years later i've changed my mind based on what that squad and set up have served up.

Would we?

Nothing is guaranteed

If you look back at the sides that have won the competition over the last 10-15 years none of them played boring rugby and ground out titles did they?

Does that mean Agar will be gone before 2012?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until this imposter has been removed, or made to take a back seat, then I do not expect any 'big years' for the FC.

With our current team i would be surprised if we didn't make the 8, I could see only Bradford overtaking us from the teams that finished below us after the play offs.

I still think we make a couple of signing hopefully Westerman and a quota halfback/FB.

If he hasn't stepped up to the next level after 3 1/2 years in charge he should be long gone but we all know he won't

Give it up mate. Whatever happens there will always be people defending agar

I see a Leeds fan thinks you've offered Matt Diskin some food for thought

Id say hes already involved in it,thats why there will be nowt to get excited over with new signings for next season,i reckon we will see someone come in as back up to horney,long also maybe cover houghton (grant rovelli) also someone young and british on a 3-4 year deal, and i reckon longs replacement is already sorted for 2012,this is a rumour thread isnt it