No one has and I never said they had in my post did I? merely said we had to look at improving and evolving.

I can't believe you're being negative about it without having witnessed if it will work first.

And as for what will JW teach LP probably not a lot but has others have said he will be able to assist and develop other players within the squad it's just about looking at the bigger picture.

Just because Webster has not been a superstar player he was still a good hb in his day and just because he was not successful at Wakefield which is a poisoned chalice which ever way you look at it, it doesn't necessarily make him a bad coach.

Webster's been an assistant at Hull before. Done nothing then, done nothing since.

Seems a moot point now anyway, judging by Radford on blunderside he's as good as employed.

No as I stated I strongly believe it. This is based on watching Hull FC's play over the past few weeks. As I stated Pryce and Min's body language at times before the recent run of form suggested to me that they were not happy with the way we were playing. Then we get a report that stated that LR had said he was releasing the shackles (why the hell they were in shackles in the first place is another debate). I believe this would have been as a result of consultation with senior members of the squad.
Its a belief I have based on watching the game for almost 40 years. No insider knowledge. I may be wrong, but I have no confidence in Lee Radford being able to devise attacking plays, other than the durge that we were served up prior to this current run.

All opinions and I'm happy for others to prove my theory wrong.

Probably because he was made from the same mould as Paul Anderson, Chris Chester, Brian McDermott, Keiron Cunningham, Denis Betts and Shaun Wane.

That's not exactly true, in his first season as assistant at Hull we finished 6th from12th previous year and again the play offs the year after.

He also made an instant improvement in a short space of time at Wakey last year and at Rovers.

Things certainly haven't gone well as a head coach this year at Wakey, but he deserves another chance at coaching IMO.

It was. No way on earth can a half organise every player in the team on every attacking play. Why do teams bother training other than defence and fitness?

He has previous for posting nonsense then arguing the toss. The only bonus is he then disappears for a few days

I agree about radford and am somewhat puzzled (although very happy with) by our seeming seismic shift in attacking ability. I was just wondering if you knew something had happened. I'm not convinced it's down to pryce taking on the role of attacking coach though

I'm not suggesting he has taken on a coaching role, more he has imputted some of his considerable experience along with Mini and Ellis. Those three are winners and are not happy simply to take a pay cheque at the end of the month. They are here to win and what ever systems we had in place prior to Easter was not going to get us any where near silverware. I suggest words have been spoken behind closed doors and we are starting to see the results in our performances. It is after all a team effort.

Are you trying to tell me we need a coach to tell players where to stand? Deary me, every team sets up the same, in fact trying to put them in a rigid structure was the reason our attack was turd first half of the season.
The way you're making it out is far too rigid, as though every play is pre-determined.

Organisation on the field is the HB's job.

More nonsense.

And a coach's job is to help ensure that the HB knows what's required of him 'on the field', re-enforce known plays/positioning, discuss options with the coach/s & what areas he/the team need to be pinpointing for any given opposition or individual player.

Some players whom have superb decision making abilities and can play what they see still need a plan, you still need coaches to guide even the most brilliant & gifted. Human beings are fallible, on any given day you might not be in the right place mentally if your preparation isn't right or something disturbs your way of thinking, this has happened to EVERY great athlete.

Having that team around you to get you onto the right track when things like that happen is massively important as is ensuring the plan that goes onto the pitch is met to achieve a goal, that doesn't mean you can't move away from that for given scenarios but if you don't fulfil the basics you end up not being able to do those off the cuff deviations so easily if at all.

JW might not improve us, we just don't know, but if he has a positive influence within the team as a whole whilst adding in his own player and coaching experience I think it's a risk worth taking to give him a go and see what happens, don't you?

My argument was never that they didn't need coaching (although the less intelligent among us thought it was), what you've stated there I'm sure our coach already does. I want my HB controlling and organising out there, not pre determined set moves dictated by a coach. The idea was put forward was that he'd help with end of sets, kicking, catch & pass etc. But Pryce has been at the very pinnacle of our sport, he knows what's needed. Isn't it what we signed him for?
Things have turned a corner, why change things now?

I reckon if I went back through older posts, the same people who want Webster would have wanted Goulding, Cookie etc. I just don't see the point in employing people for the sake of it, unless you're 100% sure they'll make a difference, I'm not sure he will.

Employing him for the sake of it implies we are doing him a favour, how can you know what he offers if you didn't interview him, speak to him to find out what he has to offer?
Whilst individually we might disagree with what the owner, the coach or indeed players do and we evaluate their performances from a fans perspective it's virtually impossible to truly grasp what an individual has to offer until you speak to them in depth, find out what they are about, what they think they can offer and how they fit in with the existing team.
Your evaluation of what he's done here, at Wakey etc is far too simplistic and your way of thinking just narrows down opportunities by its very nature, that the head coach is looking at different avenues to improve the end result and as an aside possibly taking some pressure/responsibility off his shoulders has to be a good thing.

I'm all for voicing a strong opinion, you know that, I'll back myself despite what people have to say but sometimes we have to wait to see what happens and then judge/re-assess things even if our intial thoughts are 'what a load of old twaddle'.

You might be completely right but I think it would be hard to prove if things go wrong given the previous 18 months or so and Radford's track record.

I know, as I said you have previous