Live salary cap

Remember that we had enough room on the cap to sign Chase 2/3rds of the way through the season, coupled with Mckinnon, O'Carrol and Ellis leaving I imagine we have a decent chunk to pay him out of this years cap

Where is that in the rules?

Would be an obvious loophole allowing teams to get around the cap. For example you could offer a player towards the end of his career a 3 year contract, knowing full well he will only play 2 years, and be paid off for the third, allowing a lower cap spend for those 2 years. Could call it "back loading", would surely not be allowed.

More likely we do have some cap space left this year, how much is debatable. If we had signed Chase this year, it would have been less than 4 months of his contract, perhaps 50K.

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Following (probably excessive (mea culpa)) recent analysis of the fine detail of how the live cap works, I think the general consensus was that it doesn't work like that.
But as EHFCF says, you could just pay him off kinda like Wire did with Hicks. The issue is that that it'll cost [ia lot[/i of money and it's just money down the drain.

McDonnell, Chase, Holdsworth and a Kiwi prop would only be 4 non-feds. It's unlikely, but you could keep him.

Sure theres also something you can do if a player retires so it doesnt count

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No system is without loopholes. However, doing what you propose would be 'against the spirit of the cap' and Wigan were fined for trying something similar a few years ago.

The 'live cap' system calculates the initial SC liability of each club on 1st November every year, and then monitors changes during the year. If a player is released after the end of one season and before 1st November then he doesn't count. Moreover, it is now possible to release a player DURING the season and not necessarily be penalised depending on the details of his contract and/or reaching an RFL-approved termination agreement with him. And his cap value would be immediately removed.

We could have an agreement in place already with Seymour lodged with the RFL so we have his space free on the cap.

What is it with the obsession some have with home grown players?

Crooks has done a job when asked. He has not stood out and, IMO, lacks pace to be a serious attacking threat.

Arundel is streets ahead of Crooks in all facets of the game.

What was the situation at rovers last season when they deregistered Dobson to allow Mason to play? Was Dobsons wages part of the cap for that period?

If Seymour is not going to be part of the future playing plans, could he be removed from the playing roster and employed (in title) as part of the coaching staff to keep him off the cap?

Irrespective of how he has performed, he came to us under the impression of a 3 year deal on decent money. He will not want to give that up on the cheap. Another thing to factor into this, from Seymours point of view is the tax position he is in and whether he needs to be "out" of New Zealand for a certain length of time.

I also assume that Jamie Ellis and O'Carroll will have been paid off to some degree to have their contracts terminated?

I'm sure hkr weren't allowed to pay him as he didn't have a contract?

Why would we put Seymour on the staff? If we can't come to an agreement pay him off.

I doubt Ellis and O'Carroll got anything.

That was to make quota space, not cap space. We'll have had enough cap space for both, so it didn't matter from that POV.

You could de-register Seymour, but you'd be seeing a large amount of money wasted. And the game would be seeing a medium amount of talent going unused.
A transfer that subsidises his wages to a club without cap or non-fed constraints would be the obvious out.
Say they've got a promising youngster, you could pay them £100k plus Seymour, the cash helping them to pay his wages. Could even work with Salford for Holdsworth, as long as Seymour was convinced they were financially stable - just bung some extra on the fee on condition they take BS as well. I'd be asking them for the £100k as a signing on fee if I was he, mind.

Dobson still had a contract, he was just de-registered while Tonga sorted their poop out - which they didn't. Bad Tonga; Jersey would have sorted it.

O'Carroll and Ellis may well have been on deals small enough to make them an attractive prospect to Widnes/Cas. Seymour is presumably in a different position in that respect.

Or, as mentioned above, we could just pay him off. We have the cash and it wouldn't count on the cap.