I assume now he is English he'd have a British passport to back it up?

I would rather the club agree another deal with Tickle as he is probably one of our most consistent players week in week out and for me is one of the best kickers in SL and he would be a huge loss even if we got £150K.

As for Chase it would be a thanks but no thanks for me as although no denying his talent I just don't see him being a geniune team player, plus his off field antics aint what you want from what would be one of the marquee players within the squad.

I have a feeling the wages for the full season would count on the cap. That certainly used to be the case. However you can get round that by staging payments so that their 'annual wage' for this season is only 40k and goes up to 120k next season.

It's not hidden. Or secret for that matter. I think it pre-dates RLFans.

Think would be big loss losing Tickle

I was under the impression the "live" salary cap meant that this was not the case? Surely if we sign someone mid-season only the wages we actually pay them within the salary cap year would count?

We've got a good back row though. Let him go, give Kent more of a chance and spend his money in other areas.

On the subject of Chase he has real faults in his personality but as a player he would improve us hugely.

All the 'live' cap means is that your cap position is assessed continuously throughout the season rather than a retrospective audit at the end. As far as I know the position remains that as soon as a player plays one cap-relevant match his wages count over the entire season.

EDIT5.4.2 where the Club proposes to register a Player part-way through the Salary Cap Year,
the RSCM shall calculate the Salary Cap Value of the Player, in accordance with the
usual principles, as if the Player was employed by the Club for the entire Salary Cap
Year.

Comment to Clause 5.4.2

My emphasis.

I don't know either way, but does that mean that some players (Watts, Pitts etc) are counted on the cap for both clubs? I'd assume that only the money we actually pay them count on the cap for us, and the money Leeds/Rovers have paid them count on the cap for them?

agree, he's a talent, but he's also a tw@

Not quite. Using Watts as an example, his wages while at Rovers count against their total cap liability for the season; now he's with us his wages [ifor the entire season[/i count against our aggregate cap liability. So he kinda overlaps for the period he was at Rovers.

Thats how I understand it as well - but bear in mind we have created space in losing McKinnon who would have been a part year cost in the same vein as O'Carroll and Ellis (if we have released him now), so we would not have had the full year liability for their costs. If Heremaia was being paid under insurance following injury, I am not sure how his salary would be counted on the cap, or whether he is only on the cap as of now.

Could it be his a big fish in a very little pond? get him to a bigger environment and his attitude might change??