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Quote: knocker norton "I wouldnt say it is a compromise because the attributes Sammut have I feel are what Hull need in the halves. If anything it is a bonus to have a talented player who can offer cover if needed in other positions.'"
completely agree.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I dont believe for one minute that Hetherington scoured the market for a half back, couldnt find one so said bugger it lets sign a backrower instead. That would indicate a lack of strategy, which for all her faults she cannot be accused of.'"


No it wouldnt. The strategy would clearly be demonstrated, the implementation of the strategy would be lacking but through no fault of the club. If the players just aren't out there there's nothing we can do about that. You seem intent from your arguement to aportion blame to our board/coach for not recruiting a half back. I'm disappointed that we haven't but logical thinking would lead me to a place whereby i have to beleive we tried. Logically we wouldnt to go without but then logically we wouldn't want to be held to ransom or sign the wrong player.'"


I tend think after reading all the quotes and media bits that the signing of Westerman was something they had already planned for regardless of any signing or non signing of a halfback, so dont think his signing was a fall back signing.

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Quote: Chris71 "I tend think after reading all the quotes and media bits that the signing of Westerman was something they had already planned for regardless of any signing or non signing of a halfback, so dont think his signing was a fall back signing.'"


Have to agree, no way did we decide to shell out a fee on a fallback signing, I think we have looked and we just can't do the deal that all sides are happy with. I am quite happy with that, I wouldn't want to put the club at risk with a gung ho attitude to recruitment and finance like our friends over the river.

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We've suffered badly from the results of poor recruitment in the past. The club appears to me to have learnt from those mistakes and are only interested in players that add quality to the squad in specific areas. If they can cover more than one position that's great but utility value is no longer compromising quality. Added to that would appear to be the importance of players having the right attitude (I agree Tansey is on the very edge of this envelope) and what seems to be a preferred longer term strategy of securing younger British players where possible, paying for the privilege where necessary. If we get the half back cover we crave before the season starts then great otherwise it'll be another struggle in that area this season. However we shouldn't compromise on quality and it should be at the right price. Chase or Sammut would be great otherwise see what Nicklas has got and make the big signing when the quality/price and availability is right.

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Quote: Mild Rover "
Reckon you might get someone from the fringes of an NRL team yet.'"

surely this is a better option then paying a big fee for either Sammut or Chase unless there willing to sign long deals.

every season someone falls out of favour in the NRL then come over here and do well. off the top of my head Lauatiti, Head, Bird, Sammut and Dobson have done it in recent years. so unless we can get a good deal on the two mentioned i'd be tempted to take the risk and wait and see who becomes available.

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Just a question, how many would be happy with signing sammut if this was the end of this season and you were looking to recruit a Long replacement.

If you wouldn't be happy then surely signing Sammut on anything other than a one year deal is bad business as you end up with a pricey asset on your books that will hinder signing your real target 6 & 7.

From Sammut's P.O.V I'm sure he wouldn't want to come on a one year as he might as well stay in Wales and see a year out.

As for Obst, please don't sign him as we'll never beat you again.. constant thorn in our side..

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Why would signing sammut for more than one season prevent us from signing a half next season?

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From Sammut's P.O.V I'm sure he wouldn't want to come on a one year as he might as well stay in Wales and see a year out.

As for Obst, please don't sign him as we'll never beat you again.. constant thorn in our side..'"


I thought Sammut was under contract for 2012 at the Crusaders?

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Quote: knocker norton "I thought Sammut was under contract for 2012 at the Crusaders?'"


He is. We'd have to buy him out.

Don't understand this talk of a 1 year deal - two reasons - why on earth would Sammut go from a 2 year deal at Crusaders to 1 year at Hull - and why would Hull consider that a good business deal? Surely we should be looking for a good overlap on Long leaving?

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: knocker norton "I thought Sammut was under contract for 2012 at the Crusaders?'"


He is, but he tweeted that he wants to beback in the nrl in twelve months.

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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: Bal "He is. We'd have to buy him out.

Don't understand this talk of a 1 year deal - two reasons - why on earth would Sammut go from a 2 year deal at Crusaders to 1 year at Hull - and why would Hull consider that a good business deal? Surely we should be looking for a good overlap on Long leaving?'"


Why overlap long? If Sammut plays 7 he'll need a organising half next to him.

He can play 6,9 and 1 before 7.

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Quote: R.B.A "I think the Sammutt links are just a smokescreen that Hull are happy to go along with. Everybody in the game has known that Hull have been looking for a half back since the end of last season. Therefore i reckon that Agents will have offered Hull every out of contract and want-away half back in the world of Rugby League. With that in mind would Hull really be in discussions with Crusaders to sign a reasonable/middle of the road scrum half at this late stage for what is likely to be a large transfer fee? Unlikely in the extreme.
It is more likely that Hull identified their target early and have been in discussions since to manoeuvre his release from his current club. I am pretty sure Rangi Chase is your man.'"


That being the case, and with a big fee involved, I can't think negotiations have been going well because Cas played Chase in a meaningless friendly against NL opposition and kept him on the field, risking injury, long after every other first teamer had been withdrawn.

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Sammut played versus widnes.

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Quote: barham red "Just a question, how many would be happy with signing sammut if this was the end of this season and you were looking to recruit a Long replacement.

If you wouldn't be happy then surely signing Sammut on anything other than a one year deal is bad business as you end up with a pricey asset on your books that will hinder signing your real target 6 & 7.

From Sammut's P.O.V I'm sure he wouldn't want to come on a one year as he might as well stay in Wales and see a year out.

As for Obst, please don't sign him as we'll never beat you again.. constant thorn in our side..'"


He'd be a good enough scrum half in my eyes.

If he's not then I don't know what people are expecting, Cronk, Thurston etc?

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Quote: PAUL M "
Quote: PAUL M "Just a question, how many would be happy with signing sammut if this was the end of this season and you were looking to recruit a Long replacement.

If you wouldn't be happy then surely signing Sammut on anything other than a one year deal is bad business as you end up with a pricey asset on your books that will hinder signing your real target 6 & 7.

From Sammut's P.O.V I'm sure he wouldn't want to come on a one year as he might as well stay in Wales and see a year out.

As for Obst, please don't sign him as we'll never beat you again.. constant thorn in our side..'"


He'd be a good enough scrum half in my eyes.

If he's not then I don't know what people are expecting, Cronk, Thurston etc?'"


To be honest I'd say he'd be a pretty good sigining due to the fact he would be an improvement on what we have at present which is what is needed.

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