Is there anything you're not an expert on?

One major thing that showed up for me was pace (or lack of) we've no speed in the halves or centres. Carlos got done for speed right at the end and looked like he was running in concrete boots for his intercept, we're crying out for some genuine pace throughout the team.

Balmforth was great again, with a try and an assist and some great passing from 9 really got us going in that second half. Felt we blew more than a few chances today, we just can't seem to get any luck at the minute the last conversion in off the post pretty much summed it up.

Williams the difference today. As hasbag says, a genuine gamebreaker.

The improvements from Hull are clear though, I think the side from earlier in the season lose by 30+ today. Aydin was really impressive, not far off an 80 minute performance. Ashworth very good too but another worrying injury.

Why did Chan not play, anyone know? Injured or just not selected?

Whilst it was a shame not to see Cartwright I totally get why he wasn't selected. There's no rush, by the time of the Salford game he'll have had almost three weeks to settle in. Hopefully by then too we'll have added another import.

Also I think the fact we played a good chunk of the game 2 subs down and then Sao went off injured too with about 15 mins to go leaving a 1 man bench, can't fault the effort and determination from the boys, they were absolutely out on their feet at the end. Massive minutes from Aydin and Herman, Gardnier had a good stint as did Fash, but Ashworth was head and shoulders the best forward on the pitch, hopefully his injury isn't as bad as it looked.

The problem there is Smith pinched it against London, we beat Leeds and came very close to beating warrington

Mixed views on this!

Pleased with the effort and commitment once more, can't fault anyone on that score, but gutted to lose in that fashion.

Think the difference in the end was the quality gap between the two sides. If you take Williams and Dufty out of their line-up then we most likely come away with a win. We all know this isn't the greatest squad we've ever seen, but games like today bring out our inadequacies into the harsh light.

The possession and territory we had at times was squandered because we simply lack the quality to exploit it, although I did think Wire's defensive line was very resolute and even sides better than us may have struggled to break them down.

Either way, I feel a good deal more positive than I did a few weeks backs, so we are seeing some lifting of the mood from the first three months of the season. Let's hope the remaining games bring a little cheer for us all.

Hope Ashworths injury isn’t too bad as thought other than the offload at the start of the 2nd half he was very good again today and made good metres. Though to be fair the off load was on but the timing/execution was off.

On fitness I think we look a lot fitter than we did under Smith and we look a lot more committed and together as a team.

Balmforth has to be in the 17 as he has done more in the 2 games than most have done all season in terms giving us direction and an attacking threat.

It would be criminal if we don’t or haven’t offered him a deal as he will more than likely be a very good player over the years.

Yes another one. A specialist in the subject of the circadian rhythm.

Jamie Shaul playing hooker.

Aydin is an upgrade on Brown for sure.

Can't fault the effort today and we are definitely fitter than we were but we are so dumb at times and there is no leadership on the pitch.

I've been disappointed with trueman who has done nothing g when we're in good field position. We had so much ball in their 20 metre area we should have won comfortably but we really lack I the basics of the game. We're crying out for some pace but sign a couple of donkeys in hardaker and Chamberlain.

The forwards are doing g their job but the half's and centres really not doing enough in attack.

Lots better than we were though.

We have probably dicked balmforth around over a new contract and he's gone elsewhere. Maybe rovers who are after a hooker

At least Smith beat London…came close doesn’t get 2pts.

Is that It? Only two negative opinions, surely you can produce more than that?

Still, at least you can find more negatives than positives from today. That'll keep you going for another week a least.

Its a good question
I watched Trueman quite a bit at Castleford before his injury and never got the hype although he did run the ball more there and had a bit of pace but was never fast.
I have mentioned before that he has lost that bit of pace whilst he has been here, hardly ever runs the ball, and was made to look a lot better player when Clifford was here as he carried the half back partnership.
I like to see a running halfback but we certainly wont have one with Abdul and Trueman.
I wouldnt extend his contract and i dont think S/L clubs would be queing up for his services.

Three weeks to settle in but will he have enough time to get over his jet lag?