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Gentle, smith and Hodgson were all similar, all nice guys, all very intelligent and all very laid back, they'd do well at top clubs, but the laid back attitude doesn't suit Hull as the players think they can also have that laid back attitude on the field and all will be well. The only thing that can sort us out is an absolute no nonsense coach like Wane, someone that holds players to account, gives them an absolute rollocking when they don't perform, can rise above the player power of downing tools, and stand up to Pearson and tell him what's needed to become a top club again
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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011.
Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony.
I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar.
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| Quote: UllFC "Tbf to Gentle he managed to finish 6th with a squad assembled at last minute in 2012 with I think our best home record ever at the MKM. Even though the 2013 playoff defeat was embarasing lets not forget it was a round 2 playoff defeat and we'd lost at Wembley in a game spoilt by a downpour. Legend has it the players downed tools, we never know what might have been had he stayed (2014 and 2015 were poor under Radford)
Id take the above level of league and cup finishes right now!'"
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "Finally it’s took a year but you’ve all started to realise that Tony smith is well past it, he got gifted a great team at Leeds, gifted a great team at wire that’s it ?, by the way get used to the ‘we’re doing it tough’ ‘learning lessons’ ‘my boys’ his 3 main things he just repeats in interviews after everything the blokes lost it big time, not a modern day coach
Stanley gene, wow wow wow, all hes d about is his tee time at ganstesd, brought in to hold tackle bags up, knows nothing about coaching, just Tony’s right hand yes man.
Uncle Tony has done nothing since, the bloke is always bigged up by baz and Tez and the sky clown gang as if he’s some messiah… news flash he isn’t, he’s disinterested and hasn’t had a clue for years
Quote: Theeaststander1 "You’ve got nu brown who had one cap vs Cook Islands (Oldham would give Cook Islands a run for there money) for 10 minutes and who played at fev .. championship
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Liam tindall outcast from Leeds went to Bradford couldn’t get in either side and Derrel olpherts was his competition…..
Jake trueman had 2 major injuries both being ACL that man will never play full contact rugby again soon it’s a matter on when not if … on good money
Houghton bloke has been stealing a wage for about 5 years he should of been let go years and years ago
Mr okanbor well he’s just terrible
Morgan smith couldn’t get in the worst wakey side in the super league era last year at his position hooker and now he’s a SL halfback what ?
Jordan lane all the fc fans blew smoke up his booty to early calling him a future captain etc etc look where he’s ended up looks tired of playing for hull
Carlos t won the cup in 2017 and is still at fc in 2024 walking wounded
Ligi Sao not d and is very average
Pele Pele Pele , well what can I say about the wonder kid ? He got talked up via media, interviews , EVEN MERCHANDISE before he touched a blade of grass, why ? Why does fc have this weird culture of talking players up that ain’t even done a game yet, penalty machine, way out of shape
Tex has 1 good game every 10 games if he’s d
As for the hierarchy, James Clarke was a pitch announcer and now he has the keys to the runnings of everything ? Bizarre is an understatement
One last thing as for the people mentioning briers, Shaun wane and some other names, they aren’t gonna want to come ruin their CV in west hull, it’s a poison chalice,'"
Wrong again! Nu Brown played 3 tests for NZ last Autumn and was in the team that beat the Aussies 30 - 0 to win the Pacific RL Championship.
The fact that he played hooker and we signed him as a half back is immaterial.... | | |
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| Quote: BP1 "Think most fans now agree that Gentle was hastily dismissed. Even before the Huddersfield debacle there had been rumours circulating that Pearson had already decided to dispense with his services, hence why he looked somewhat dispassionate throughout that game, he already knew his fate was sealed come what may.
The irony is (compared to this weekend) that in 2013 most fans were more than happy to continue with Gentle, but Pearson had other ideas, whereas now the opposite appears to be the case. Today it's the fanbase who have lost all faith in the coach, with Pearson (for reasons unknown to us) clinging on to him like a life-raft.
But the situation with Smith looks similar to Gentle in 2013 (hence my earlier allusion), we've arrived at the same destination by a different route that's all.'"
Hi Roam Ranger great first post!!!
I guess I'm a bit biased towards Peter Gentle because I still keep in touch with him and his family. Peter Gentle knew 'I believe', that several of the staff including a senior member of the caching staff had lobbied Adam about Him and apparently he listened. Why I have no idea but Gentle had done well when you look at his record and we were in our second play off game after getting to Wembley plus most of us who were there watching that game, had never ever seen anything that mirrored more a game being thrown than that one. This guy hasn't got us near a play off game or Wembley but I see the similarities as it almost looks as if Smith tells them one thing and they do the opposite. | | | |
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Don't do it keep the faith. It's that pesky bonaire that's twisted your mind. The happy clapper posse needs you
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "Finally it’s took a year but you’ve all started to realise that Tony smith is well past it, he got gifted a great team at Leeds, gifted a great team at wire that’s it ?, by the way get used to the ‘we’re doing it tough’ ‘learning lessons’ ‘my boys’ his 3 main things he just repeats in interviews after everything the blokes lost it big time, not a modern day coach
Stanley gene, wow wow wow, all hes d about is his tee time at ganstesd, brought in to hold tackle bags up, knows nothing about coaching, just Tony’s right hand yes man.
Uncle Tony has done nothing since, the bloke is always bigged up by baz and Tez and the sky clown gang as if he’s some messiah… news flash he isn’t, he’s disinterested and hasn’t had a clue for years
You’ve got nu brown who had one cap vs Cook Islands (Oldham would give Cook Islands a run for there money) for 10 minutes and who played at fev .. championship
Liam tindall outcast from Leeds went to Bradford couldn’t get in either side and Derrel olpherts was his competition…..
Jake trueman had 2 major injuries both being ACL that man will never play full contact rugby again soon it’s a matter on when not if … on good money
Houghton bloke has been stealing a wage for about 5 years he should of been let go years and years ago
Mr okanbor well he’s just terrible
Morgan smith couldn’t get in the worst wakey side in the super league era last year at his position hooker and now he’s a SL halfback what ?
Jordan lane all the fc fans blew smoke up his booty to early calling him a future captain etc etc look where he’s ended up looks tired of playing for hull
Carlos t won the cup in 2017 and is still at fc in 2024 walking wounded
Ligi Sao not d and is very average
Pele Pele Pele , well what can I say about the wonder kid ? He got talked up via media, interviews , EVEN MERCHANDISE before he touched a blade of grass, why ? Why does fc have this weird culture of talking players up that ain’t even done a game yet, penalty machine, way out of shape
Tex has 1 good game every 10 games if he’s d
As for the hierarchy, James Clarke was a pitch announcer and now he has the keys to the runnings of everything ? Bizarre is an understatement
One last thing as for the people mentioning briers, Shaun wane and some other names, they aren’t gonna want to come ruin their CV in west hull, it’s a poison chalice,'" throw in vete , takairangi, simms, richards, gee, at his last club the man dosent do his research pearsons fault ,think he wanted to get one over hudgell and has come unstuck and the fans suffer | | | |
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "Finally it’s took a year but you’ve all started to realise that Tony smith is well past it, he got gifted a great team at Leeds, gifted a great team at wire that’s it ?, by the way get used to the ‘we’re doing it tough’ ‘learning lessons’ ‘my boys’ his 3 main things he just repeats in interviews after everything the blokes lost it big time, not a modern day coach
Stanley gene, wow wow wow, all hes d about is his tee time at ganstesd, brought in to hold tackle bags up, knows nothing about coaching, just Tony’s right hand yes man.
Uncle Tony has done nothing since, the bloke is always bigged up by baz and Tez and the sky clown gang as if he’s some messiah… news flash he isn’t, he’s disinterested and hasn’t had a clue for years
You’ve got nu brown who had one cap vs Cook Islands (Oldham would give Cook Islands a run for there money) for 10 minutes and who played at fev .. championship
Liam tindall outcast from Leeds went to Bradford couldn’t get in either side and Derrel olpherts was his competition…..
Jake trueman had 2 major injuries both being ACL that man will never play full contact rugby again soon it’s a matter on when not if … on good money
Houghton bloke has been stealing a wage for about 5 years he should of been let go years and years ago
Mr okanbor well he’s just terrible
Morgan smith couldn’t get in the worst wakey side in the super league era last year at his position hooker and now he’s a SL halfback what ?
Jordan lane all the fc fans blew smoke up his booty to early calling him a future captain etc etc look where he’s ended up looks tired of playing for hull
Carlos t won the cup in 2017 and is still at fc in 2024 walking wounded
Ligi Sao not d and is very average
Pele Pele Pele , well what can I say about the wonder kid ? He got talked up via media, interviews , EVEN MERCHANDISE before he touched a blade of grass, why ? Why does fc have this weird culture of talking players up that ain’t even done a game yet, penalty machine, way out of shape
Tex has 1 good game every 10 games if he’s d
As for the hierarchy, James Clarke was a pitch announcer and now he has the keys to the runnings of everything ? Bizarre is an understatement
One last thing as for the people mentioning briers, Shaun wane and some other names, they aren’t gonna want to come ruin their CV in west hull, it’s a poison chalice,'"
Your not wrong. Quite a sobering piece really. | | |
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| Quote: Smiggs "Your not wrong. Quite a sobering piece really.'"
I predicted hull 9th on the thinking that Salford, cas, London wouldn’t even get out the traps but Salford look like a mid table team it’s gonna be a photo finish for the spoon this year
Idespised smith at rovers by the end and was glad to see the back of him, you could tell he wasn’t interested and if any journo asked a question he didn’t like he’d take offence and start going in. | | |
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| Quote: supersport "throw in vete , takairangi, simms, richards, gee, at his last club the man dosent do his research pearsons fault ,think he wanted to get one over hudgell and has come unstuck and the fans suffer'"
Me and a friend said this the other day, he’s an ‘Aussie’ coach and I say Aussie loosely in a sense he’s lived in the uk for going on 25 + years ? He doesn’t have these ‘contacts’ anymore, he’s just a run of the mill standard British coach, but sky constantly churn out the narrative that he’s ‘got loads of mates in oz’ ‘he’ll be the one to turn it around’
Don’t wanna go all in but the man that turned rovers around the first time was Paul Lakin did it that well a premier league team picked him up, fast forward 15 years he’s doing it again, it’s no coincidence
I do agree that the signing will of had some revenge mixed into it | | |
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "I predicted hull 9th on the thinking that Salford, cas, London wouldn’t even get out the traps but Salford look like a mid table team
you’re a fan of the filthy povos- won nowt since 1985?
Anyways Salford mid table ? Are you for real ? See how you go in the Cup v them
That Geordie Shore guy doesn’t hold back does he ?
If I posted what he does on here I’d be hounded out by snowflakes
Tony Smith a dinosaur and recruitment like Stevie Wonder
lol what a guy
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "
I’m not taking away from Salford ability in the slightest, the problem is if sneyd has a bad game they lose, and they have 0 depth and are built on sand so yes mid table come the end of the season, it’s round 6….
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| Quote: Steve0 "Gentle, smith and Hodgson were all similar, all nice guys, all very intelligent and all very laid back, they'd do well at top clubs, but the laid back attitude doesn't suit Hull as the players think they can also have that laid back attitude on the field and all will be well. The only thing that can sort us out is an absolute no nonsense coach like Wane, someone that holds players to account, gives them an absolute rollocking when they don't perform, can rise above the player power of downing tools, and stand up to Pearson and tell him what's needed to become a top club again'"
Wane would be the number one choice but even if we could afford him I can't see him touching it with a barge pole. Wilf rightly said coaching Hull is a poisoned chalice. | | |
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego " you seem to talk a load of brown stuff ,cant you go in and sort it with all your knownledge
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