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| It was BH who has implemented the defensive structure.
He took a leaf out of Clearys book when they worked together at Wests.
No one on here is saying Hodgson is perfect, but some people take it too far.
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| Ellis didn't completely rule out one day being a head coach. He said he wasn't really sure and expressed a doubt whether he could tell players they were no longer required.
I guess it was a difficult question whilst the current head coach is under extra pressure. Ellis is too professional to say "Yes I'd really love to be head coach at some point".
Wasn't there a video once where he was miked up on the pitch and he wasn't backwards at coming forwards in bollocking his team mates.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Ellis didn't completely rule out one day being a head coach. He said he wasn't really sure and expressed a doubt whether he could tell players they were no longer required.
I guess it was a difficult question whilst the current head coach is under extra pressure. Ellis is too professional to say "Yes I'd really love to be head coach at some point".
Wasn't there a video once where he was miked up on the pitch and he wasn't backwards at coming forwards in bollocking his team mates.'"
Was it the 2016 CC semi against Wigan. You could hear him properly belting everyone in the tackle
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| Quote: mwindass "Quote: mwindass "Ellis didn't completely rule out one day being a head coach. He said he wasn't really sure and expressed a doubt whether he could tell players they were no longer required.
I guess it was a difficult question whilst the current head coach is under extra pressure. Ellis is too professional to say "Yes I'd really love to be head coach at some point".
Wasn't there a video once where he was miked up on the pitch and he wasn't backwards at coming forwards in bollocking his team mates.'"
Was it the 2016 CC semi against Wigan. You could hear him properly belting everyone in the tackle'"
Taking Hodgson out the equation for the moment can anyone honestly say they know what Purtill brings, does or has done in his time at the club?
Back on to Hodgson I’d agree to give him more time if there were real signs he’d implemented processes and structure to our game. What really hit home last night for me is that he has not learnt anything from last season. Inexperienced or not after losing Connor last season and seeing our season fall apart he should have made strides and put things in place so should we lose Connor again we would have structures in place to lessen the impact. Last night was a show in attacking threat even while Gale was on and previously without Connor.
BH just seems to have been reliant on the players in terms of any attacking play and openly admitted he leaves it to them.
We could have still been playing now and likely wouldnt have scored.
So for me is only right and fair that BH is questioned in regards to things in and around the coaching as it’s his job to ensure we are well prepared and well coached. Last night there was very little if anything to show we had any structured or set plays for getting pts on the board. This was summed up even more with the attempt at goal that was never really on.
I really hoped Hodgson would bring something to take us forward but I just don’t seem to think we are any further on 1st team wise.
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| Quote: Chris71 "
So for me is only right and fair that BH is questioned in regards to things in and around the coaching as it’s his job to ensure we are well prepared and well coached. Last night there was very little if anything to show we had any structured or set plays for getting pts on the board. This was summed up even more with the attempt at goal that was never really on.
I really hoped Hodgson would bring something to take us forward but I just don’t seem to think we are any further on 1st team wise.'"
Good post. Professional coaching is a results based business and looking at progress so far we haven't moved forward under Hodgson.
When he was appointed coach in 2020 he said the following about his aspirations for the club.
" Hull is a fantastic club with real pedigree and ambition so I am excited to be heading back and hopefully helping such a prestigious club achieve some success.
"Hull demands success and that is what I am about. With the staff and players we have and the support of the great fans there,I am really excited about what we can achieve together over the next couple of years."
Unless things really improve I believe he is on very shaky ground!
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| Quote: Bombed Out "We've had 3 big games already, which would have cemented us in the top 5 but we've failed dismally and that's without half a team missing, so your point is rather moot.
I'd like to know what you think he's putting in place because it certainly isn't discipline or attacking structure.
I like Brett but I'm beginning to lose patience, as he can't eradicate the inconsistencies that still exist and there is no stamp on the team of his style of play.'"
This ^^^^^^^
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| Hodgson trying to implement changes. Hands tied a bit. Youngsters in the best place we have been for years and this is the future as stated by Hodgson and Pearson. He's made mistakes. Who doesn't. Hindsight is marvelous. Most though Gale signing a good one and praised Hull and Hodgson for getting rid of Sneyd and getting Gale on board. I know I get accused of talking about injuries but we have been unlucky with them. We are going through a tough spell. What about if we try to get behind the lads they certainly need it
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| Quote: hull2524 "Hodgson trying to implement changes. Hands tied a bit. Youngsters in the best place we have been for years and this is the future as stated by Hodgson and Pearson. He's made mistakes. Who doesn't. Hindsight is marvelous. Most though Gale signing a good one and praised Hull and Hodgson for getting rid of Sneyd and getting Gale on board. I know I get accused of talking about injuries but we have been unlucky with them. We are going through a tough spell. What about if we try to get behind the lads they certainly need it'"
Exactly, why some want the coach sacking every time we lose a few games I’ll never know . No wonder other clubs laugh at us . When we beat Wigan , most were lauding hodgson . Fickle or what , 3 games later .
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| looking at that match on friday and whenever i watch a sl game,where did all the creativity and flair that the british game was noted for go.?hull player from 40 years ago mick crane as unfit as he was in a part time game,would have opened the wire defence up with ease.yet most so called full time pros havent a clue.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Taking Hodgson out the equation for the moment can anyone honestly say they know what Purtill brings, does or has done in his time at the club?'"
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| Quote: Windy winger "Exactly, why some want the coach sacking every time we lose a few games I’ll never know . No wonder other clubs laugh at us . When we beat Wigan , most were lauding hodgson . Fickle or what , 3 games later .'"
And only been here 18 months. I was determined not to post but some mega idiots on here. MEH.
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| Quote: Windy winger "Exactly, why some want the coach sacking every time we lose a few games I’ll never know . No wonder other clubs laugh at us . When we beat Wigan , most were lauding hodgson . Fickle or what , 3 games later .'"
Other than Tarquin I'm not sure I've seen anyone calling for him to be sacked yet but then again I might have missed something.
Spinning your point on it's head and playing devil's advocate here.
It's okay we've lost the last 3 games, turned in 3 abject performances and got beaten by 2 teams below us because hey we beat Wigan 4 weeks ago so we can ignore our current poor form.
Does that sum it up right and demonstrate how opinions can be spun.
How can we go from the highs of a Wigan to the lows of a Wakefield, Warrington and Cats (where I'm not sure we even turned up) and people not be vexed or questioning.
It's an entertainment and results business we're in, not a popularity contest.
Brett is a nice guy, I'm not calling for his head but as a paying fan I can comment on his coaching and our teams performance, good bad or indifferent.
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| O don't think people would mind Hodgson if we had shown progress under him, but I don't think we are any better than under Radford.
Makes the same mistakes and won't drop or rest certain players.
His comment about Hookem not trained in the halfs, you would think with our halfbsck situation he would have done a couple of sessions there eve if the play was to play him hooker.
Fully expect Johnstone to play at 7 against Leeds too.
It isnt just a few games either.
If we don't win either of the next two games that's the play offs gone and that's not good enough with the cap we spend.
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| Win our next 2 and we be sitting pretty .Getting in the play offs was most people's idea of a good year We are 5th IMO we will get in the 6.Again my opinion that's about where we should be. Hodgson has his flaws but I believe he's putting things into place . We are in a hole ATM but believe we will come out of it. I always try to see a light at the end of the tunnel and after sulking after a loss always back the Lads to bounce back
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| At least Dobbins showing how it should be done
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