Wasn’t a rumour but he stated as much himself; “if it’s the same” injury, “as my other leg” then I’ll retire.

I've thought this myself.

Shaul
Carlos
Connor
Griffin
Satae
Taylor ( if he could stay fit )
Savelio

Shaul can do something from nothing no one apart from Griffin can do that

Swift has had a good year but he's very replaceable if he left

Brown is always this could be that man and has been for about last 2 years.....but hasn't shown much these days he won't stay a youngster forever

Examples?

Brown is 21, not really given a run in the team, if he was at Leeds, Saints or Wigan, he would have played 50% more games and already be a great prop.

https://youtu.be/oHjrY7y5T5M Watched this clip of NRL360 regarding Wests. Listen to then talk about the players you'd think they were talking about us...

https://youtu.be/oHjrY7y5T5M Watched this clip of NRL360 regarding Wests. Listen to then talk about the players you'd think they were talking about us...

This will cheer you all up ......

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fc-5884674 Don't understand how we can be linked with this guy, if we are in the financial mire some people suggest, probably a wild rumour , but if true, he'd be a great player to replace some of elements that are sadly aging and no longer effective in what was a great pack of forwards at one time. I think Pearson trusts Hodgson, who is bound to have some contacts in the NRL and thought we'd sign some lesser known players that turn out to be gems, never thought we'd be linked to players of this stature and still think this is way off - he'd get a squad place in every NRL side and is a regular for the Roosters, so why he'd choose to earn considerably less in a competition that is so inferior doesn't really add up.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fc-5884674 Don't understand how we can be linked with this guy, if we are in the financial mire some people suggest, probably a wild rumour , but if true, he'd be a great player to replace some of elements that are sadly aging and no longer effective in what was a great pack of forwards at one time. I think Pearson trusts Hodgson, who is bound to have some contacts in the NRL and thought we'd sign some lesser known players that turn out to be gems, never thought we'd be linked to players of this stature and still think this is way off - he'd get a squad place in every NRL side and is a regular for the Roosters, so why he'd choose to earn considerably less in a competition that is so inferior doesn't really add up.

Am I the only one who doesn't particularly rate Ligi Sao? The general consensus seems to be that he's been a great signing and one of our best players. He has his moments and has put in a few strong performances but I often find him fairly ineffective. The only high quality prop in our squad is Satae (maybe Taylor if he can ever get injury free again).

If it was fantasy rugby league I'd say we needed a big squad overhaul, but obviously that's not realistic. So I'd settle for a quality prop and hooker this off season. Its hard to know what direction we are heading on or off the field. The worst thing is I'm struggling to care at the minute.

I like Ligi. Very consistent for me. Gets through alot of work and plays big minutes. We've had games this season when he has been our only 'senior' prop and had to cary the pack. Hudds game at home springs to mind.

He has made the odd error or given away a penalty, but I think that is more down to him playing big minutes under fatigue in the middle for us.

I like him, would I be devastated if he went, no, he was bigged up more than Satae and he has certainly hasn't been as good, but a sold performer who plays good minutes, make yards and has an offload.

Like most of our starting pack, he plays too many minutes due to the awful bench decisions by Hodgson.

I really like Sao - no nonsense Prop, with good aggression, mobility and ability to offload. Had to do a lot of minutes this year too!

He isn't the same kind of player as Satae so cannot be compared to him. I have looked at his stats compared to someone like Prior - a prop that does a lot of minutes, and who has had a great year for Leeds, and his stats look good.

Sao:

Tackles - 538
Tackle Busts - 25
Carries - 229
Metres - 1722
Average Gain - 7.52
Offloads - 23

Prior:

Tackles - 613
Tackle Busts - 26
Carries - 214
Metres - 1559
Average Gain - 7.29
Offloads - 14

I'm another that likes Ligi and think he's been a decent signing.

As DaveK, mwindass & Irregs have said he has done a lot of minutes and in most of the games too many with the lack of Taylor & Bowden its been down to him and Satae to get us on the front foot which he and Satae have done.

He's pretty consistent too and think a lot of the errors he's made are down to fatigue and frustration. He's never going to be a barnstorming player in the way that Satae is but when they are on together they compliment each other. Both Sao & Satae need some support as so they can be utilised better but with both Bowden and Taylor being missing for a good chunk of the season we have been far too lightweight.

I also seem to remember Sao was going to play LF for us but ended up been used as a prop due to our shortage in that dept.

As Irregs has put when you compare his stats to Prior (who many seem to think is one of the best in SL) then Sao is more than decent.

We need to look at the Taylor/Bowden/Matongo situation as we have 3 players that have missed an awful lot of game time due to injury. Fash does a ton of work and is reliable and has role to play but we have lacked long term rotation in terms of fowards as once Satae & Sao come off we loss momentum due to lack of size in the middle coupled with the slow speed we tend to ptb.

I like Ligi. Often has to play big minutes, to his detriment.

Like Dave K said, Hodgsons bench decisions have been baffling at times. Think Ligi has been a victim of that.

There again, Chris71 makes a good point in that with us missing three of our bigger units, we haven’t been able to spell Satae and Sao enough (without a huge drop off).

I just put it out there because it's an opinion that I rarely ever see or hear. Is he a poor player? No. Is he a big part of our failings? Definitely not. But I just think he's nothing more than a solid pro, and is that the sort of player we want to be using our quota places (and no doubt a decent bit of cap) on?

I think it's a fair point about him being used the wrong way or being asked to do play too may minutes in the trenches, because he does show glimpses of being a dangerous player. Just not often enough for me.