Odds on Savelio will be in the side next week even though Radford said he would spend 2 weeks with the conditioning staff

Lyne has definitely got it in his locker to knock people about, especially towards the ends of games against tired middles. You guys killed yourselves with bad discipline and faced to many sets trying to deal with Fifita & co, looked knackered at the end.

Thought it was a decent game to be fair, really physical and both sides defended well apart from a couple of 10 minute spells.

Noticed a few hull fans being really congratulatory on the way out as well, good sports after a disappointing result like that.

Fifita outstanding, for a big man to play nearly all the first half without a rest, was top notch, we dipped in form tonight, passing, tackling, options, discipline all poor, brought down to earth with a bump, well played Wakey best team won.

I remember a couple of seasons ago, a Salford team putting about 50 points on us at the KC and the the next week Leeds hammered us there too.

We won the challenge cup and was about ten minutes away from the grand final that year.

Let's see what happens when it comes to the crunch.

Radford's tenure has given us the greatest ups and the lowest downs, but I love the ride we've been on with him.

In his words "long may it continue"

20 points better than you. Don’t you realise that getting it right on the night is what sport is all about. Another classic example of trying to make a big defeat less painful. It does not work though does it?

Last night they were but in general we are on a par. The fact we have the same record after 6 games probably backs this up.

I accepted a long time ago we wouldn't be winning anything this season so a defeat doesn't really effect me one way or another. So I'm not sure what the rest of your drivel is trying to do. I'd be more concerned about your own team who finished behind us last season and are behind us this season, despite the fact we lost 13 in a row.

Of course you want to introduce irrelevant points. What does losing 13 games in a row have to do with anything when 8 of those defeats were in a competition that we did not take part in? Calling a view drivel says more about you than about my previous post. My view may be different to yours but you can only resort to insults. If the defeat does not affect you why are you getting so uptight? You are a strange supporter if your club is quite heavily defeated, apparently does not play well and you are not really affected.

Well you would know more about that than us as you've had so much practice.

Pretty abysmal from start to finish. Absolutely nothing in attack all nigh and our defence was abysmal. I'm sick of seeing wingers and centres all over the place creating easy tries for the opposition. Do we actually practice defensive structures? griffin was terrible defensively.

I said last week our defence against leeds was poor but no one cared as we had a good 20 minute attacking spell. I said we'd only beaten the 3 worst teams in the comp but was told it wasn't an indicator of how good we are. Forwards simply not good enough, We need some size if we are to compete. We'll finish somewhere 6th to 10th this year

Trust you to state the obvious. Nothing original about Hessle Roader.

For what it's worth I agree with your points Keith. Unfortunately some Hull fans (and vice versa) can only reply to well constructed criticism with insults or pointless belittling of other said team.
We were shocking last night and epitomised every thing we know is wrong.
So far only beaten bottom 3 teams but hope last night was merely a blip on our road to recovery.

Got to agree there Jake,woeful performance.
All that was missing last night was red noses.

People were saying Saints were light years ahead last season yet won nothing didn’t even make a final Warrington have been beaten by Catalans who in turn got absolutely hammered by a team everyone said would struggle I don’t think anyone is light years ahead of anyone some of the results so far have been bizarre

Think we all care Jake but we beat Leeds, and as you said we were missing to many props against Wakey, Tag not many minutes for him, hope Bowden Green and Paea puts this right. Our defence was average last night Griffin especially, but even Carlos who was probably the best player on the field for us, missed crucial tackles, and if we miss tackles against a quicker team, we know the outcome.

We were schooled by big Dave last night and as he grinned when we welcomed him with a chorus of “you fat b@@@@@d” I kind of feared the worst.