Picking out 2 forum posters who do not go to games and also happen to think selling Lineham is a mistake as the yardstick is a bit far fetched.

No you don't go at all and you keep your money or spend it on something else.

I struggle with the idea that a rugby club can serve up tripe year after year and the supporters are just supposed to keep quiet and keep shelling out their hard earned dosh and that any financial problems experienced by a club are the supporters' fault for not backing them.

No other business would expect its customers to keep on buying an inferior product or service.

I didn't say that was the yardstick at all. I think the general yardstick would be "disappointed to see him go, but we've got a decent fee out of it".

I said it was ironic that those most vocal about him leaving and blaming the club are those fans who don't go anymore.

Hull FC are a sports club, not a typical business.

The club have supporters (you say that yourself, twice), not customers. There's a huge difference.


Nobody has ever said fans should "keep quiet". But turning your back on them and still expecting them to operate financially at the same level is ridiculous.

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I think it is a good deal personally, however it stops being a good deal if we start shipping out more of our 'better' players.

Read what I said properly.

"most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake"

Not, "most fans".

Sorry i had Ian etc down as fans. Do people stop being fans if they stop going to games?

Where have I turned my back on the club ???

I have stated next season I will be going back to games I choose to go, when you remember the club left me not able to go in the switch to Fridays. I am simply returning and with different priorities developing within my family things have to change end off.

I have never stated selling Lineham is bad either, its good business when a club comes in and offers money ............

now get a life

So supporters who buy passes, match tickets or merchandise from the club are not customers of a business? Seriously?

The club is having to cut costs because it is a business and there must be some correlation between income and expenditure.

If some supporters/customers are turning their back on the club/business its because they are unhappy with the standard of the product or service. The way to win them back is to improve that service, not just to appeal to their loyalty.

I'm not expecting the club to operate at the same financial level on reduced income, but I think its wrong to blame the supporters for the reduced income without looking at why some are staying away.

We have, that's why the most fervent whiners are taking a back seat of late.
Just wait until we lose the next 2 SL games and get knocked out of t'cup.

Depends on their circumstances ans reasons.

If they've stopped going for the resons Ian & Seb have stated, then they aren't fans IMO, how can they be?

You run the risk of speaking common sense on here these days of invoking the wrath of those who have appointed themselves as "keepers of the Faithful" .
Nothing like the cuddle crew of old and with less brains