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Quote: OmneFC "If my son played professional sport then I would advise him to do the best thing for his career, and not advise him to take a pay cut because I supported the club.'"


Who said he has been offered a pay cut?

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Quote: dubairl "you are clearly not making sense.'"



I wouldn't worry about it, some of the people on this board are clearly braindead

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Quote: Doc Brown "And you know this how?'"


He claims Mike (full of e) smith tells him it, whilst he buys his ale. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Ben Crooks signed his current deal after only a few games, since then he has played regularly, been top tryscorer and in the Dream Team.

So we are now offering him a pay cut, somehow I don't believe it.

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But Phil say he is on 80k a 15% pay cut is 12k less so 68k with a year left and two on top is still good for a lad his age.

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I suspect the OP is saying that if more money is available elsewhere, then staying is the same as taking a pay cut.

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Quote: Ellam "But Phil say he is on 80k a 15% pay cut is 12k less so 68k with a year left and two on top is still good for a lad his age.'"


A pay cut is a pay cut no matter how much you earn. I wouldn't accept it and wouldn't expect anyone else to either.

By the way, I don't believe a word of this contract talk. Are we seriously expected to believe that the Rovers Chief Exec is privy to Hull FC contract discussions? Pull the other one!

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Quote: ccs "I suspect the OP is saying that if more money is available elsewhere, then staying is the same as taking a pay cut.'"



No its not! It's staying the same (as you yourself pointed out).

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Quote: Hessle Roader "No its not! It's staying the same (as you yourself pointed out).'"

Did I?? It's a play on words, I know, but if he could earn more elsewhere, then he would be taking a pay cut (or less money, say) if he stayed.

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Quote: Dave K. "Ben Crooks signed his current deal after only a few games, since then he has played regularly, been top tryscorer and in the Dream Team.

So we are now offering him a pay cut, somehow I don't believe it.'"


I don't either but if what Pearson was alluding to in his interview is anything to go by then I suppose it's possible we may have offered Crooks more than we should have initially? Using the alleged £80K as a figure, was Crooks worth that when he was offered that contract? This obviously been before he was a regular, top tryscorer, Dream Team member as you pointed out along with SL Young Player of the Year.

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Quote: davey37 "Who said he has been offered a pay cut?'"


Pay cut is irrelevant, advising your son to stay somewhere out of your own loyalty when he can do better elsewhere is just daft.

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I don't claim to know what money Crooks is on now, what he has been offered or how much he wants.

I do know that at his age [iif [/iI was offered a contract for less than my current contract I would take it as an indication that my club wasn't bothered whether I stay or go.

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Quote: Doc Brown "He says he feels the signings by Motu/Radford are better than the ones by Gentle/Mcrae. Given our league position I am not so sure. And it's really hard for us to tell if we're getting better value for money salaries wise because we fans have no idea what money the players actually earn. The fact that we are the third highest salary club and in 12th position is alarming.

He says that it's not Radders fault that players are out of the team or out on loan and blames the previous regime? Sorry but as head coach it's Radders choice whether he wants to use these players or not and it's been whilst he's in charge that we've sent players out on loan. The club seems to me to be trying to force certain players out of the club rather than trying to utilise them this year and then sending them on their way at the end of the season. He says Gentle wasn't a man that could have done that but Radford is. To be honest, I'm not sure that's been a good thing.

I can't say I'm surprised to hear that we're struggling to get rid of some players because they're on high wages as I think Motu Tony spoke about the wages when he was appointed. Can't blame either Tony or Radders for what a previous regime offered contracts wise but it's only a challenge for Radford because the club have made it a challenge by sending players out on loan and the like. The only time I can recall Radders talking about the salary cap was last week. Anyone else recall anything?'"

Having the third highest salary and being 12th was meant to sound alarming. His entire point is that we're paying over the odds for average and worse players. Which is down to the deals done by the former incumbents.

His point about players being unavailable is that their unavailability is down to either attitude or cost. Some players have been loaned out to minimise or remove their impact on the cap. He specifically mentioned that we would be OVER cap if we hadn't loaned out players. Others have been loaned out because of their response to the increased discipline/workload. This is part of the restructuring of the squad that he feels is necessary which is why he blames McRae/Gentle and not Radford/Tony who are doing what he asked them to at the beginning of the season.

I'm still not convinced that Radford is the man for the job. At all. But it does seem that the problems and challenges behind the scenes go deeper than we might have thought. And it's abundantly clear that Pearson sees Radford and Tony as implementing changes he himself has decided are necessary, so they won't be going anywhere any time soon.

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Quote: Diogenes "Radford back-stabbed his way to a job he coveted but was not ready for.'"

There is absolutely zero evidence of this. And in fact the picture being painted by a couple of posters of Radford as some kind of Machiavellian genius who has manipulated and bamboozled a successful sports businessman into doing his bidding is, frankly, risible.

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Quote: OmneFC "Pay cut is irrelevant, advising your son to stay somewhere out of your own loyalty when he can do better elsewhere is just daft.'"


But you said you wouldn't advise him to "take a pay cut"?

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