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Quote: Offy "get a new half back, a world class, proven, and of decent age.'"


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On a serious note though, half back should be the priority (as always with us). As much as I would love to see one that matches Offy's criteria I doubt we can attract a world class half (come on FC prove me wrong here icon_biggrin.gif) but should be going all out to find a proven one at a decent age.

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Quote: Offy "We've said it for years, its a half back we need. we have plenty of good forwards and good outside backs.

If Carvs and Horne retire (imo they will) pitts and Kent go, use all that money PLUS any we have left over and get a new half back, a world class, proven, and of decent age.

Then should any others go then look at other positions'"


Who? It's all well and good saying we need a player that fits into a description, but simply put, who fits that description, and is actually available (at any price)? Hull won't be the only ones chasing halfbacks either, Warrington have a lot of cap space and are supposedly chasing halfbacks, saints will need a new halfback if the hohaia rumours are true (Walsh himself quashed the rumours he was unhappy), and Leeds will have to start the process of replacing the golden trio sooner or later.

I'm sure every team in super league would love DCE in their teams, and he fits that description, but it's not likely to happen!

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Who? It's all well and good saying we need a player that fits into a description, but simply put, who fits that description, and is actually available (at any price)? Hull won't be the only ones chasing halfbacks either, Warrington have a lot of cap space and are supposedly chasing halfbacks, saints will need a new halfback if the hohaia rumours are true (Walsh himself quashed the rumours he was unhappy), and Leeds will have to start the process of replacing the golden trio sooner or later.

I'm sure every team in super league would love DCE in their teams, and he fits that description, but it's not likely to happen!'"


You dont have to tell us, we have been looking since 2007, its the hardest position to fill in world rugby.

Saints will be after a runner to work with Walsh, so if he stays I dont think yo will be in competition, shame about wheeler as when fit looks a great player

Dobson is the obvious one, but as you say Warrington and maybe Leeds will be after him.

My fear is that Bradford will get relegated and we will sign Luke Gale.

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The following

Arundel, Colbon, Crookes , Horne, Miller , Rankin, Pitts, Tuson, Watts, Carvell, Whiting , Yeaman, McDonnell.

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Quote: GEvans75 "The following

Arundel, Colbon, Crookes , Horne, Miller , Rankin, Pitts, Tuson, Watts, Carvell, Whiting , Yeaman, McDonnell.'"

Only ones I would disagree with are watts and probably whiting. Watts has been messed about by radford. he was our best prop in the derby then gets dropped so not sure what the issue is

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Quote: GEvans75 "The following

Arundel, Colbon, Crookes , Horne, Miller , Rankin, Pitts, Tuson, Watts, Carvell, Whiting , Yeaman, McDonnell.'"

I'd rather have Crookes than the bin man, if that means giving Crookes a run out on the left when Lineham comes back then so be it, I don't see that Talanoa offers anything more than Crookes IMO and in fact Crookes is bigger AND faster.

As for getting rid of all our halves..sorry but that's just crazy, keeping Rankin is a must because he offfers more than Horne and if we are to get a 7 then we need somebody bedded in at 6 already.
Miller must be given longer to play, this season at least, I'm not saying he is the solution & we keep him but let's be honest, at times we have been absolutely gash and we are not a one man team. Despite everything that has been said of him, he's 21 and at times he's had poor first pass service behind a pack getting dominated, how many other teams in the bottom half of the league have a 21 year old no.7 that is dominant and looking like an all-star when you're just not that good as a team?
Add into that that our gameplan is poor and doesn't suit his natural flamboyant style, he will go somewhere else and flourish I have no doubt.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I'd rather have Crookes than the bin man.'"


I stopped reading there.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I stopped reading there.'"

So did I.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I'd rather have Crookes than the bin man, if that means giving Crookes a run out on the left when Lineham comes back then so be it, I don't see that Talanoa offers anything more than Crookes IMO and in fact Crookes is bigger AND faster.

As for getting rid of all our halves..sorry but that's just crazy, keeping Rankin is a must because he offfers more than Horne and if we are to get a 7 then we need somebody bedded in at 6 already.
Miller must be given longer to play, this season at least, I'm not saying he is the solution & we keep him but let's be honest, at times we have been absolutely gash and we are not a one man team. Despite everything that has been said of him, he's 21 and at times he's had poor first pass service behind a pack getting dominated, how many other teams in the bottom half of the league have a 21 year old no.7 that is dominant and looking like an all-star when you're just not that good as a team?
Add into that that our gameplan is poor and doesn't suit his natural flamboyant style, he will go somewhere else and flourish I have no doubt.'"


Well you seem to be in the minority where Talanoa is concerned. The general consensus seems to be that we get his signature on an extended contract asap. Still you're entitled to an opinion, even a wrong one!!

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Quote: Hessle Roader "Well you seem to be in the minority where Talanoa is concerned. The general consensus seems to be that we get his signature on an extended contract asap. Still you're entitled to an opinion, even a wrong one!!'"

Depends how much he wants and who else is available. His poor positional play and lack of pace mean he is only an average winger in SL terms IMO. if we can find better we should let him go.

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I actually agree with him over talanoa . I think he's average at best , unless he hasn't shown his full potential yet I don't see the big thing about him . For his size , I don't think he runs his weight and sometimes I do wonder if he knows the rules . Ok he's a number , and we could do a lot worst and not saying crookes is better then him but I'd keep crookes if wage is ok and have him as our 3rd choice winger . Not a bad replacement to cover for injurys .

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Quote: FC-Steward "I actually agree with him over talanoa . I think he's average at best , unless he hasn't shown his full potential yet I don't see the big thing about him . For his size , I don't think he runs his weight and sometimes I do wonder if he knows the rules . Ok he's a number , and we could do a lot worst and not saying crookes is better then him but I'd keep crookes if wage is ok and have him as our 3rd choice winger . Not a bad replacement to cover for injurys .'"


I'd like to see him play in the centre.

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Quote: FC-Steward "I actually agree with him over talanoa . I think he's average at best , unless he hasn't shown his full potential yet I don't see the big thing about him . For his size , I don't think he runs his weight and sometimes I do wonder if he knows the rules . Ok he's a number , and we could do a lot worst and not saying crookes is better then him but I'd keep crookes if wage is ok and have him as our 3rd choice winger . Not a bad replacement to cover for injurys .'"


Really? I mean really? Bin man's been a bargain for me. Can't be a better value for money player in the league I'd imagine he's on peanuts. When you take into consideration he's playing on the wing in a largely under performing team. Don't think I've seen him enough in clear open space to dismiss his pace outright although don't think he's lightening.
What I like is he's often not even put to ground and plays the ball standing and takes up 2 and 3 defenders. Always gets a fast play of the ball, has a good urgency to do so. Physically is big(one comment on here said he wasn't and crooks bigger-WHAT?)
downside is his positional play-maybe a consequence of being out the game so long. Baring in mind he's not had an off season either and less than 10 games back. All that said he's our
4th top try scorer
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Personally I think he's only gonna improve the more games he plays

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Really? I mean really? Bin man's been a bargain for me. Can't be a better value for money player in the league I'd imagine he's on peanuts. When you take into consideration he's playing on the wing in a largely under performing team. Don't think I've seen him enough in clear open space to dismiss his pace outright although don't think he's lightening.
What I like is he's often not even put to ground and plays the ball standing and takes up 2 and 3 defenders. Always gets a fast play of the ball, has a good urgency to do so. Physically is big(one comment on here said he wasn't and crooks bigger-WHAT?)
downside is his positional play-maybe a consequence of being out the game so long. Baring in mind he's not had an off season either and less than 10 games back. All that said he's our
4th top try scorer
3rd top carrier
3rd top metre maker
4th for metres per carry
2nd top off loader
8th most clean breaks
Personally I think he's only gonna improve the more games he plays'"


I agree. The only bad game I saw him have was against Wakey. Much better than Crookes or Colbon IMO.

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