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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: pmarrow "I don't think it was demanded we made either final but after two years we should be competing at the very least. That is something which is not ridiculous to think about. Its not the fact we lost tbat has upset AP and others it is the manor of the loss. We didn't exactly tear trees down at Wembley so have no right to use the fatigued excuse.'"
Agreed, the fact that we made both the CC final and the play-off second round in itself meant we should compete in those matches, if not win them. Both were winnable games. Both were lost spectacularly. Not once, but twice in the most embarrassing of ways. Not good enough when it mattered twice. Gentles position is untenable, sadly, but the causes that brought him to this brink must be tracked down and ousted too, whether that is player revolt or otherwise.
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| Quote: Sheldon "It could easily be argued that with a more disciplined structure Gazza and other players with his "character" would have been a far better player.'" And it could just as easily be argued that Gazza's game was based around him having the freedom to interject himself when he saw fit. That isn't structuring at all.
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| Quote: Sheldon "I don't believe everyone does have a price.
Coaches like Bellemy, Bennett, Hasler are set up for life.
And doubling their salaries would be more than our cap.'"
Depends how determined,is Pearson to take Hull FC as contenders ,not pretenders.
Bennett/Hasler ,Fans would've thought they'd never leave Brisbane & Manly - but they did, in fact Bennett has left St George to go to Newcastle.
My point is, if you have the money, anyone & everyone has their price - not just in the NRL.
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| Quote: WormInHand "Indeed. But surely too great a professional not to be one of the beacons gathering everyone under the new coach's mantle? Surely? If not, his credibility as consummate leader at the club is quashed. He signed for Pearson as well as Gentle. What he does next is critical for him as a leading sportsman. I think he'll do the right thing.'"
Maybe it depends what view he takes of the role allegedly played by some of the players and the assistant coach in what has happened?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "And it could just as easily be argued that Gazza's game was based around him having the freedom to interject himself when he saw fit. That isn't structuring at all.'"
In multi million pound company's why aren't people turning to the Gazza's of the world then? If it doesn't tick the box it doesn't work. Sports and society move on.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Diogenes "Maybe it depends what view he takes of the role allegedly played by some of the players and the assistant coach in what has happened?'"
It will do. Does he support dissent against the coach or, as captain, does he back the coach regardless of his own opinion of events. He could be between a rock and a hard place or he may believe Gentle made the right decisions anyway.
If Radford did play a part in colluding with the players against Gentle how - in the same way that adulterers form new partnerships based on first euphoria and then an underlying mistrust of each other - can he trust them once he himself is coach?
I know nothing for definite about this alleged player power and if it's played a role in Gentle's demise, only conclusions drawn from what's happened on the pitch and various second-hand mutterings, does anyone know anything concrete?
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| Quote: Sheldon "In multi million pound company's why aren't people turning to the Gazza's of the world then? If it doesn't tick the box it doesn't work. Sports and society move on.'" Because pro sport has become to sterile.
This last post by you kinda backs up that point.
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| Quote: WormInHand "It will do. Does he support dissent against the coach or, as captain, does he back the coach regardless of his own opinion of events. He could be between a rock and a hard place or he may believe Gentle made the right decisions anyway.
If Radford did play a part in colluding with the players against Gentle how - in the same way that adulterers form new partnerships based on first euphoria and then an underlying mistrust of each other - can he trust them once he himself is coach?
I know nothing for definite about this alleged player power and if it's played a role in Gentle's demise, only conclusions drawn from what's happened on the pitch and various second-hand mutterings, does anyone know anything concrete?'"
Allegedly Radford is with the players in Blackpool for the weekend, if true - speaks volumes for mine.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
[/quote:2lhqd089]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32444.jpg |
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| Quote: weaver93 "Allegedly Radford is with the players in Blackpool for the weekend, if true - speaks volumes for mine.'"
Oh dear. Makes the HDM story incredible - Pearson cannot be that foolish.
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| Quote: weaver93 "Allegedly Radford is with the players in Blackpool for the weekend, if true - speaks volumes for mine.'"
If this is true Radford should not be the next coach - or knows he won't be.
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| Quote: Diogenes "If this is true Radford should not be the next coach - or knows he won't be.'"
If it's true, he shouldn't even be the assistant.
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| Don't want Radford to be our next coach but don't see why people are jumping on his back either. IF and it is an IF he has got together with the players and orchestrated it so Gentle gets sacked then it may be for a major reason. Maybe all the players are massively disillusioned with Gentle and the way he seems to be taking the club forward, training methods, tactics, new players etc and they realised they had to do something to get him removed?
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Don't want Radford to be our next coach but don't see why people are jumping on his back either. IF and it is an IF he has got together with the players and orchestrated it so Gentle gets sacked then it may be for a major reason. Maybe all the players are massively disillusioned with Gentle and the way he seems to be taking the club forward, training methods, tactics, new players etc and they realised they had to do something to get him removed?'"
IF and its a big IF that's true then surely they should have gone to McRae or Pearson to express their concerns rather than cheating the fans by putting in performances like that on Thursday night.
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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
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| Quote: Diogenes "IF and its a big IF that's true then surely they should have gone to McRae or Pearson to express their concerns rather than cheating the fans by putting in performances like that on Thursday night.'" You couldn't make it up! .......Oh, hang on a minute.......
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| Quote: weaver93 "Allegedly Radford is with the players in Blackpool for the weekend, if true - speaks volumes for mine.'" My eyesight is failing me then as I'm pretty sure I saw him at work yesterday after 5pm. My colleague said he had seen him earlier as well (He arose in a conversation as we were talking about Gentle leaving you guys and he mentioned he had seen him).
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