If they double your pay and you live where you want to why would you care about 4 or 5 internationals a year?

Is there?

It's about time RL had its premier side in Black and White back! Surely in adding 'players like Tickle' that will help boost Widnes (and the likes) Leagur position?

I am sure most have seen it on f/book tbf, though I am not sure it should be on here privacy and all that

Highlights the shocking state the club under Rule, Hetherington and Agar. Agree with a previous post that O'Carroll was poor signing for a injury prone player.

Also you could argue that if he is not good enough for Wigan, or Wigan didn't put up a fight to keep him, then that in itself must raise a few questions.

It was reported that Wigan offered him a deal.

Agree. International rugby in this country there is is little or no recognition outside the RL community. You play France mid season or a meaningless game and when you get a chance to play Aus or NZ it's the same players picked regardless of form or position i.e. Sinfield, Chase and Peacock. Shocking.

Seems little resistance to keep him though.

They probably offered him a deal that a injury prone average sl deserved, we had to offer him a bit more to out bid them (and other clubs) and make him and his family move over here.

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Club assuring me O'Carroll has not been sacked, but is leaving for pastures new at some point. Not expecting Gentle to talk about it today

Got to say was very underwhelmed with this signing at first.. Still am, Kind of glad he is gone, Good luck at Widnes.

Good luck to him. Players shouldn't make commitments they can't fulfil. Don't know if that's the case here but contractors work away a lot. Anyway I was hoping for big things from him but fitness clearly an issue - too much of one for Gentle it seems.

Looks like the Ogres toys are well out of the pram.

I searched that Account on FB can't seem to find it..

Glad its not just me that thought that.