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| Quote: Rock God X "Can it be that simple? If we win the Derby, but then get beat by Wire, Saints and Hudds, that would have to be enough, wouldn't it?'"
You would like to think so eh. Personally as well, I think it will be and he will walk, or be pushed. I think he will resign before being pushed.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Can it be that simple? If we win the Derby, but then get beat by Wire, Saints and Hudds, that would have to be enough, wouldn't it?'"
Surprising how many fans are saying that all we need to do is beat Rovers. A lot of these fans would be happy if we finished 13th as long as Rovers finished below us and we beat them twice.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Not sure on that - think the bod would prefer not to sack in the middle of the season and might be hoping that a derby victory would buy them time. Either way lose on Friday I think that'll be it for Agar.'"
I'd take defeat if I knew for a fact he'd be gone. I wonder how many others would feel the same - particularly if victory meant he would be here for the rest of the season.
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| Quote: wolfie "will end up at leeds mate,they wont put up with mcdermott for much longer.'"
Quote: wolfie "I reckon Leeds will get Noble,'"
I have a sneaking suspicion Noble would prefer the Hull job. He's dropped hints before, always speaks well about the club even off camera, and he'd probably be given more time with less pressure from the fans due to the situation he'd be taking over, and the board are less likely than Leeds to be as ruthless and 'do a Wigan' to him . There's also any residual Bradford loyalty to consider, as TBH they will always be 'his' club and he does seem that sort of guy to avoid going to bitter rivals.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I'd take defeat if I knew for a fact he'd be gone. I wonder how many others would feel the same - particularly if victory meant he would be here for the rest of the season.'"
If it was a fact he would go, I am with you. I would take a defeat.
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| Quote: hullbg "Surprising how many fans are saying that all we need to do is beat Rovers. A lot of these fans would be happy if we finished 13th as long as Rovers finished below us and we beat them twice.'"
Sad, isn't it. It's a small club mentality, that.
Whilst I always like to beat Rovers, a victory against them wouldn't mean that I felt remotely differently about the whole Agar situation.
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| Quote: hullbg "Surprising how many fans are saying that all we need to do is beat Rovers. A lot of these fans would be happy if we finished 13th as long as Rovers finished below us and we beat them twice.'"
That's far from the case for me. However with the symbology of the derby match combined with the fact we already lost one this season and our league position I just feel that another defeat will be the tipping point even for our BOD.
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| Anyone find this sentence from the OS worrying?
Quote: "Hull now face the long trip back from France for the short turnaround to the Hull derby on Good Friday. '"
It's almost as if they're getting their excuses in early.
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| It will be a hollow victory if we beat rovers on friday,agar will then be going on about us turning the corner and challenging the play off positions until we get beat at warrington,i would take the defeat for agar to resign
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| Quote: Rock God X "I'd take defeat if I knew for a fact he'd be gone. I wonder how many others would feel the same - particularly if victory meant he would be here for the rest of the season.'"
I think you'd be surprised at how many fans would be in favour of a defeat IF it meant Agar was removed asap.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I say that too. I don't know if he's the man to lead us to silverware, but I reckon he'd get us to the position where we could at least challenge the top teams. Give him the rest of this season and the next two and I reckon we could be somewhere near.
It won't happen, of course. By the time the board finally realise what's been staring them in the face for three years, we'll be out of options and promote Webster.'"
Been saying this for six weeks.
There seems to be a culture within our board of being unable to make a decision then tenaciously pursue the solution. FFS, our 3 crucial signings, in the 3 positions we have been screaming about for long enough were made after the season started, Furthermore, they were made in each case due to circumstance, rather than deliberate action by the club.
I said somewhere yesterday that Nobby is an average to good coach who can get good squads up the table pronto. Whether he is good enough to make them into a class above achieving successive silverware is doubtful, as illustrated at Wigan. But he's exactly what we need this year and next.
A month ago he'd have signed. Whether he will now with all the alternatives emerging is dubious. What we are witnessing is another example of the failure of our club to identify a problem - even if it's screaming at them in their faces - and secure the right solution for themselves, whatever it takes, at the expense of all others.
That of course, will be the actions of clubs like Leeds, Bradford and now Wigan (for next season). It will be interesting to see the calibre of the people they identify and make sure they get.
Noble? I think he'll go to Leeds. McDermott will either stay as second in command (as was originally intended under Bluey) or come to us. Thanks, the Heths.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I have a sneaking suspicion Noble would prefer the Hull job. He's dropped hints before, always speaks well about the club even off camera, and he'd probably be given more time with less pressure from the fans due to the situation he'd be taking over, and the board are less likely than Leeds to be as ruthless and 'do a Wigan' to him . There's also any residual Bradford loyalty to consider, as TBH they will always be 'his' club and he does seem that sort of guy to avoid going to bitter rivals.'"
All things considered i would like Noble to be our next coach and i would give Agar the job of DOR as i still think he has something to offer the club but unfortunately not head coach.
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| Quote: WormInHand "
I said somewhere yesterday that Nobby is an average to good coach '"
Average to good? He won everything in the game with Bradford, took Wigan from bottom of the table to one game off a grand final, and got a new, unprepared Crusaders team into the top 8. I'd have said that was 'very good', at least.
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| Quote: Raised Elbow "All things considered i would like Noble to be our next coach and i would give Agar the job of DOR as i still think he has something to offer the club but unfortunately not head coach.'"
I think it has to be a clean sweep this time. New top man and his own choice of backroom staff.
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| Quote: Mr Incredihull "It will be a hollow victory if we beat rovers on friday,agar will then be going on about us turning the corner and challenging the play off positions...'"
It seems to be a recurring theme every time we win one match out of 3. Just wish we could have had all our losses to date this season at the beginning then we wouldn't be having this debate and Nobby would be at the helm. Surely...
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