what i dont get is........what has it got to do with any of the fans wether x y and z players have gone out on the lash after a game and got wasted or whatever they do..........thats upto them not any of us

But the thing is, that kind of thing is continually allowed to happen. It's the same as the fact that Richard Horne's long kicking game is appalling, yet he is repeatedly given the ball on the last. Either they're being told to, or drop them for not listening.

Crusaders was as much about their poor defence as an improvement in our attack.

What completely undermines your argument here is that Agar was backed to the hilt with his cull at the beginning of his reign. We were told all about the clearout of dead wood and bad influences and the new discipline Agar was bringing. It was also shown again with the way Tansey was dismissed. So this stance that he is stuck with these players and he can't do anything about either their presence or their behaviour holds no water at all.

How do other clubs/coaches control their players then? Better coach, sign the right players in the first place , have the right structure in place...? Surely having a disciplined , bonded playing staff is part of the coaches job? He signs the players he wants , he looks after them and gets the best out of them. he's paid to do that and he's paid to communicate with the press and supporters these days. It's no good just wanting everything to be ok as a coach he has to make it so.

I think JM Sports might actually be Rich's Mam. That's the only sensible explanation I can see for his contributions to this thread.

Isn`t Garry Schofield looking for a job?

He certainly seems to have a soft spot for him, maybe when Agar finally gets the boot from FC JM Sports can fix him up with a job in the store room of his shop?

you feel sorry for agar hes the man in charge of this squad that hes put together and quite simple he aint getting the best from the team and more importantly he aint getting the results now im pretty sure as a coach he has and is failing as a coach of this great club.

No , only the money.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

To be fair I dont know why or what a top class coach is.

Justin Morgan was not a top class coach and maybe still is not considered to be one but the KR fans in the most part want him there.

Same with Terry Materson at Cas and Rob Powell at Quins.

Hull need to start looking at a few underlying issues within the club instead of sacking coaches and expecting the next man to take crap for a few years before doing the same. Richard Agar will get a job, Peter Sharp went straight into another job and has since gone to Australia and had a choice of jobs and John Kear and Mcrae both seem to have carved out pretty decent careers after leaving Hull.

Surely all of those blokes cant be bad otherwise they would of gone for good but they are all still in the game at the highest level.

Once he leaves us, Agar will never be a head coach in SL again.

Kear had won a Challenge Cup before he came to us and another one with us. McRae had won SL with Saints and taken us nearly to the top. If he leaves tomorrow, Rich Agar has the square route of precisely nothing that he can point to to justify him getting another crack at the top level.

Except for the fact that he is so well thought of in the game he was wanted for the England job.

Whats to say he wouldnt become an assistant and take over again?

He could lead a Championship side into Super League. Wakefield, Fev, Barrow?

You can never say never.

I follow Quins and believe me, not one person I spoke to game after game down there though Mac would work again when he left Quins.

Depsite the crap he got for the time he was down there the people who knew what he was doing from day to day are now seeing the fruits with plenty of young English lads getting game time and doing a pretty decent job so far this year too (forget today or I look silly)

Leeds have not given him the job because he is cheap, or for the way he took Quins to 11th, it was because people got off their ass and bothered to check the work he was doing.

Richard Agar can coach, I'm not sure Hull will give him enough time to prove it but someone will.

Everyone has their own opinion and I respect yours, fact is neither of us know for sure what the future holds buddy.