We're after a BACK-UP half.

you mean were after a back-up to the back-up back-up from leeds or somewhere as usual...

i think obst would be good one year signing,always looks a good tricky player to me.

so..lets get this straight, we sign phelps on a one year and maybe obst......what the hell will happen next season then? will our "recruitment drive" be as impressive as it has been this year, i think its been pathetic to be honest....

Sam Obst is the only HB i can think of who might be available. I can't see Wakey releasing him at this stage, perhaps before xmas, but not now

IIRC Brad Drew has retired

I think Lee Williams should be our back-up. just so long as we don't put too much pressure on him and we're not playing top 4 oppostion since he may struggle

6, Horne & Turner
7, Long & Williams

pathetic only as far as we failed to to sign a half IMO. the Westerman & Sharp signings are good but they are over-shadowed by the failure to sign HB/hooker cover

We didn't have any cap space to sign anyone whilst Berro was still with us. When he went, just a month or so ago, most players were already signed up. Before Berro left, we replaced Calders with Sharp and Cusack with Westerman (no replacement for Hall), I don't see that a 'pathetic'.

dont know why the club dont go after gareth moore and williams isnt ready yet

Ultimately you've got to look at things in their context, there wasn't a great deal of English talent flying around this year and we didn't get an extra quota spot until late in the season. Plans involving Tansey obviously changed at the back end of Janurary making Phelps an obvious signing. We were never going to get anyone like Jonathan Thurston or Darren Lockyear to come and be our back up half were we? Anyone we bring in minus a hooker know they are pretty much 2nd choice, why would none off contract players who we'd want come for that?

I realise he isn't totally ready but there's not much point promoting him to first team if we don't give him any game time. i'd like to see him get a few off the bench at least

FWIW I reckon Agar must rate Williams more than Moore hence why we didn't sign him

think you'll find he was playing for widnes at the time...starting 7 infact..

but young players get first team contracts sometimes becuase of there potential and getting them in a full time enviroment training on a day to day basis ect but dosent mean they should play players like williams and crooks arnt physically and defensivley ready yet but potentially yeh could become good super league players, at this moment in time im 99% sure that gareth moore is more ready and developed then williams to provide good backup now at first yeh i understand maybe not signing him because we had nicklas but now with his season long injury then surley hes worth a 1 year deal

With our h/backs I reckon the kid will get a shot