Name at least 3 games where Berrigan has not being average at Hooker...imo he has not looked like a first class player in any position since playing for Hull FC.

His form apart from the first season has nothing but average, no where near good enough for a player with his experience and wage, if he plays there next season he really needs to step up.

Houghton form improved when he got more minutes and teh starting hooking position, to me it looks like Berrigan was holding him back.

On paper Berrigan maybe a better hooker but he hasn't shown in the last 2 years.

Berrigan also didn't get moved to centre to cover whiting, Whiitng got injured before we started to play Berrigan at centre, he was moved there to replace Turner.

Spot on Dave.

For me it's simply:
In Oz Berro was a world class 9. In Oz Berro was a world class centre
At Hull Berro has been mostly average at 9. At Hull Berro has had limited chance to show what he can do at centre but has looked world class in patches there.

Simple outcome for me based on the observations above.

Berro may have won a Clive Churchill medal at 9, but he also played the bulk of his rugby at Brisbane in the centres and won various awards there too. The most impressive thing was his try scoring record and his assists as a centre.

Quite frankly, that's a stupid comment.

Which games were these then? Because you must of been watching a different team to me.

Just for the record, how have we done with Berrigan at Centre? Have we won a game? No. Has he scored? No. Did he have an assist in a try? No. So it's hardly a simple outcome.
Could any of Berrigans poor performances be down to the fact he was playing in a Shiite team for 2 years? Or did we want him to single handidly drag us up the table? The argument about his wage etc. etc. is a non-starter.

I agree he can do a lot more, but the first point is rubbish imo.



How many "first class" performances did Houghton produce? Saints at home, and i can't think of any others that he's done more than Berrigan would of done.


So he moved there due to injury? Don't see what your point is.

In your opinion...imo Berro is average, not one match can I recall him looking world class, though no doubt he takes a world class wage packet every week!

I agree Houghton was average though he came into his own middle to back end of the season,my point is I have not seen that kind of display from Berro at hooker.

Whilst we're arguing over Berro, iirc he's only started 1 game for us at centre.

Quote: east hull FC fan "I agree he can do a lot more, but the first point is rubbish imo. How many "first class" performances did Houghton produce? Saints at home, and i can't think of any others that he's done more than Berrigan would of done. So he moved there due to injury? Don't see what your point is.'" No, Turner wasn't injured just not good enough, thats why Berrigan was moved there, do you see the point yet? Is you are happy with Berrigan's form then great, but expect a season like last few where we achieve little if that your expectations. I expect more from the players that play for Hull. Houghton produced many good performances at hooker with some very good ones, hopefully Berrigan will do next year, that would do me. Your right about Berrigan being better though. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Quote: east hull FC fan "I agree he can do a lot more, but the first point is rubbish imo. How many "first class" performances did Houghton produce? Saints at home, and i can't think of any others that he's done more than Berrigan would of done. So he moved there due to injury? Don't see what your point is.'" No, Turner wasn't injured just not good enough, thats why Berrigan was moved there, do you see the point yet? Is you are happy with Berrigan's form then great, but expect a season like last few where we achieve little if that your expectations. I expect more from the players that play for Hull. Houghton produced many good performances at hooker with some very good ones, hopefully Berrigan will do next year, that would do me. Your right about Berrigan being better though. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

To say Houghton has had an average season is a truly mind-boggling comment to make IMO.

He's 22, on the fringes of international representation, already pushing 100 first grade SL appearances and is really showing himself to be an established and exciting hooker.

If he doesn't get the 9 shirt this season I will be gutted for him.

does anyone no when the sqaud number's are out, then i can nip to the k.c for the name and number on the bk of my fc shirt

2 games. Leeds and Hull KR at home and if I remember correctly both games his winger saw plenty of good ball and he did indeed assist Briscoe for a try against Leeds.

Shaun Berrigan is a quality centre.

Ah, I forgot about the leeds game. I'm probably thinking that he was moved out of position due to Radford's sending off.

Just get Berrigan 4 or Fitzgibbon 8 and say you're making a statement if those numbers aren't the actual ones.