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| Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?
Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?
Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"
Yes. His signing was announced the week of the 2006 Grand Final.
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Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?
Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"
I had my doubts too (thought it was Kear), but it was Sharp:
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 033047.stm
Also must have been Sharp in charge when Crocker signed, as the signing was announced the day after Agar took over:
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/200 ... -20432999/
Nonetheless, Sharp's signings were a mixed bag at best.
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Quote: knocker norton "Did Peter Sharp sign Willie Manu?
Alot of his overseas signings just werent good enough for a team that was top 4 challenging at the time IMO.'"
I had my doubts too (thought it was Kear), but it was Sharp:
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 033047.stm
Also must have been Sharp in charge when Crocker signed, as the signing was announced the day after Agar took over:
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/200 ... -20432999/
Nonetheless, Sharp's signings were a mixed bag at best.
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| IIRC Sharp signed:
Tickle, Sing, Manu, Godwin, Maiava, Head, Dykes, Berrigan, Byrne, Cusack and Crocker. He also gave debuts to Houghton, Hall, Briscoe and Burnett.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "IIRC Sharp signed
A pretty mixed bag IMO. I remember him talking up signing Mason, Sherwin and Soward and ending up with Cusack and Byrne.
Also seemd to have a soft spot for injury prone half backs looking at that list!
The right signings after the 2006 season could have set us up for a successful couple of years shame it never happened.
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| Quote: Kosh "The safety-first rugby was a direct response to having no playmakers in the side after Cooke walked out. On the few occasions when we managed to have a reasonably fit half back pairing we played some good stuff.'"
No we didn't. We only scored 50 points once during sharpe's tenure and that was in his 1st game. We were predicatable under him and won many games by defending well rather than scoring lots of points
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No we didn't. We only scored 50 points once during sharpe's tenure and that was in his 1st game. We were predicatable under him and won many games by defending well rather than scoring lots of points'"
So Sharp sorted the defence out....thought that was the whole idea.....what would you sooner have.....38-36 scorelines or 18-4 ones....know which one i prefer.
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| Quote: fc baldy "
38 - 36 every time.
My post was in response to kosh who was telling us how good our attack was when we had a settled 1/2 back partnership.
In 2004 we scored 50 or more points 3 times in SL matches. We've managed it only once in the 4 1/2 seasons since. saints did it twice in 3 games recently, even the dobbins have managed it twice this season. We are predictable and ponderous in attack
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No we didn't. We only scored 50 points once during sharpe's tenure and that was in his 1st game. We were predicatable under him and won many games by defending well rather than scoring lots of points'"
Last time we hit 50 in a S/L game was in 2006 UNDER Sharps tenure against Wigan...we had plenty of 30's and 40's under his regime.....bet Agar would love to be able to do that.
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| Apart from the drubbing at home by Rovers, we played some good rugby with Head in the team.
We won 9 from 12 and scored 40+ three times in four games. In comparison in 2008 we only scored 40+ twice (aside from against Rochdale in the cup) In 2009 we never scored more than 40 at all and only scored [i30+[/i twice.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Apart from the drubbing at home by Rovers, we played some good rugby with Head in the team.
We won 9 from 12 and scored 40+ three times in four games. In comparison in 2008 we only scored 40+ twice (aside from against Rochdale in the cup) In 2009 we never scored more than 40 at all and only scored [i30+[/i twice.'"
Good thing them history results on Hulls website......we also hit the frogs for 30 as well before them 3 40+ games......End of the day...Sharp had the defence sorted and the attack wasnt too shabby either
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Apart from the drubbing at home by Rovers, we played some good rugby with Head in the team.
We won 9 from 12 and scored 40+ three times in four games. In comparison in 2008 we only scored 40+ twice (aside from against Rochdale in the cup) In 2009 we never scored more than 40 at all and only scored [i30+[/i twice.'"
True. In 2004 we may have put big scores on very poor super league teams but we always came short when it mattered. Something often overlooked.
I would take a team that knows how to win the big games anyday personally.
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| Quote: knocker norton "True. In 2004 we may have put big scores on very poor super league teams but we always came short when it mattered. Something often overlooked.
I would take a team that knows how to win the big games anyday personally.'"
2004 team hit a worse injury run than agar has had otherwise looked likely grand finalists
I'd love a team which knows how to win big games. Which one do you suggest?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "2004 team hit a worse injury run than agar has had otherwise looked likely grand finalists
I'd love a team which knows how to win big games. Which one do you suggest?'"
Injury excuses eh? Sounds familiar.
I would say the Challenge Cup winning team of 2005 found a way to win the big games as opposed to their predecessors!
To a lesser extent the 2006 vintage got their way to Old Tafford and in 2008 we got to Wembley. As said the 2004 team lost every 'big' game they played - Saints in the Challenge cup and Wakey at home in the play offs.
Harsh but true excuses or not.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Injury excuses eh? Sounds familiar.
2005 team played all SL teams on the run to Cardiff......lets face it......all the finals we have been in and won have been with a worse coach than the last one according to some on here.
Sharp got us to the play-offs and won matches with a injury hit squad....the minute the injuries really bit he got the bullet....unlike a certain other coach who got a extension.
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