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Quote: EXPRO "A lot of very short sightedness here I am afraid.
Players play to a design , not ad hoc , even when it looks poor they are still going through the drills that they learn on the paddock but if your missing half backs you will look dire, as all teams do in that sitrep.
Horne is a very creative explosive player playing no worse than anyone else and out of 10 carries he will look for an offload at least 6 of them but due to lack of speed in the middle there is no one there with him hence he dies on the ball a lot, sad but true!!
This is a new team, give them time to get everyone on the felt at once and you will see a different outcome, RA does not injure players'"


Horne is not and never has been a explosive creative player....

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Quote: berrigans bitch "Horne is not and never has been a explosive creative player....'"

I'd argue that he certainly has been explosive, but not creative in the traditional sense.

Having said that, Saint Briscoe always claimed that he scored so many tries because he just followed Horne around, and Horne does OK in the Try Assists stats.

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Quote: Kosh "I'd argue that he certainly has been explosive, but not creative in the traditional sense.

Having said that, Saint Briscoe always claimed that he scored so many tries because he just followed Horne around, and Horne does OK in the Try Assists stats.'"


You maybe right, it seems such a long time ago when he consistetly played like that though icon_sad.gif

I hope he is not 100% fit really because before he got injured he appeared to hit his straps again, which gives us heart that he still has it, and i agree with you it will make a difference when Long is back, whenever that may be and for how long god only knows icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: berrigans bitch "You maybe right, it seems such a long time ago when he consistetly played like that though Horne clearly isn't fully fit, and TBH that is my biggest concern about him now. I remember when he was just about ever present, but now he seems to have become a lot more fragile. I still think that fully fit and with Long as a partner he can do a good job for us - the question is how often those two things will happen at the same time.

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The decision to play a badly-injured Richard Horne on Saturday was an absolute disgrace!

To anyone sat near the players' tunnel, it was very evident that he actually limped ONTO the pitch and was in sheer agony when he was thankfully withdrawn just before the hour mark.

To watch him, bandaged completely down one side, hobble and grimace throughout was almost cruel. When he was pitifully unable to bend his back in the lead up to Quins first try, it was just sad!

The fact is, all things being equal, Horne should be approaching his career peak about now.

But, by playing him almost constantly from the age of 16, the club have completely burnt him out at the age of 27.

The word is that, after Saturday's senseless exertions, he is having a scan this week and could miss the rest of the season!

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Quote: Hull-Neutral "The decision to play a badly-injured Richard Horne on Saturday was an absolute disgrace!

To anyone sat near the players' tunnel, it was very evident that he actually limped ONTO the pitch and was in sheer agony when he was thankfully withdrawn just before the hour mark.

To watch him, bandaged completely down one side, hobble and grimace throughout was almost cruel. When he was pitifully unable to bend his back in the lead up to Quins first try, it was just sad!

The fact is, all things being equal, Horne should be approaching his career peak about now.

But, by playing him almost constantly from the age of 16, the club have completely burnt him out at the age of 27.

The word is that, after Saturday's senseless exertions, he is having a scan this week and could miss the rest of the season!'"


I hope the word is wrong...I agree with you though about players not being 100% fit and being played..pure madness

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Quote: Hull-Neutral "The decision to play a badly-injured Richard Horne on Saturday was an absolute disgrace!
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Got to agree 100% with the above.

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Quote: knocker norton "Got to agree 100% with the above.'"


Yup, i said the same earlier in the thread. Should have played Nicklas instead.

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Wonder if his diabetes has anything to do with his fitness and performance

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Quote: Dynamite "Wonder if his diabetes has anything to do with his fitness and performance'"


He looked like he'd got on top of that earlier in the year. I'd say it's more the niggling injuries he keeps picking up and he then isnt rested to recover.

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Quote: Dynamite "Wonder if his diabetes has anything to do with his fitness and performance'"


I would say it is more the stupid amount of bandaging applied to most parts of his body that are the problem. icon_biggrin.gif

The poor lad was limping before the game had even started. Cant understand why he played on Saturday.

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As with so many players in the past RH is playing with injections week in week out due to the overwhelming injury issues that are not allowing him to recouperate correctly from injuries he really should not be playing with at present but as usual he puts his hand up and does his best .
To say he has never been creative is quite humerous and I would look at the stats over his career that say different.

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I think he needs to build himself up a bit more he looks thin to me, and i think with horney sometimes he trys too hard and the moves dont come off

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Quote: Dynamite "I think he needs to build himself up a bit more he looks thin to me, and i think with horney sometimes he trys too hard and the moves dont come off'"


Horney has always shown that not playing next to a dictating half damages his game too. Since Cooke went and then Dykes, Head and Long are rarely fit Horne is often asked to do a non-natural job and he's also often in with an inexperienced half next to him. This imo is why we've not seen the best of Horne since Cooke left.

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Quote: Big Dave T "Horney has always shown that not playing next to a dictating half damages his game too. Since Cooke went and then Dykes, Head and Long are rarely fit Horne is often asked to do a non-natural job and he's also often in with an inexperienced half next to him. This imo is why we've not seen the best of Horne since Cooke left.'"

I have to agree with you there Big Dave

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