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Quote: Robbo4 "I really cant see us having a 100K+ player sitting in the stands and as I've said numerous times I dont think Agar has the bottle to make the really tough decisions. Horne will continue to play at SO for the forseeable future. Its hard to be so tough on Horne but he has never been able to pass a ball with any great degree of skill and his long distance kicking has always been poor. He made up for these deficiencies by having a devastating step a great fend and the ability to find a gap. Unfortunately all of his weapons have deserted him and we have been carrying him for the last couple of years.'"

People keep saying this, but he was injured for the whole of 2008 bar one and a half games.

Pedantic, possibly, but true nonetheless.

Quote: Robbo4 "The really sad part is we will have to live with this situation at least until the end of NEXT season.'"

I'm not so sure we will TBH. Agar can't afford Horne to be a passenger, and I don't think that situation will suit Rich either. I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire before the end of his contract, especially if a potential replacement can be found.

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Quote: pmarrow "I'd disagree there Paul, personally thought our forwards laid down a great platform in the second half.'"



To a degree they did, once we got to their line everybody just stood there waiting for someone else to do something.

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I think to continue to play horne in the key position of 6 is hindering the team. His lack of confidence lack of creativity and lack of energy is on show for us to see and now does nothing more than try and take the defensive line on. I do not dislike Horne and have grown up watching him and joined in with the HORNEY HORNEY HORNEY chants on occasion he has done something special, but sadly these times are to few and far between Maybe centre or utility man is now more suited. We need a dynamic 6 to take the creative lead when Longy is injured. washbrook has played in the position after numerous injuries to Horne and washy grows with confidence the more he plays the position with his short kick through on the angles or timely off the shoulder runs. Turner has been touted as a potential 6 with his speed and good hands could be greatly used in the stand off role (bit of a leon pryce).

I think Agar should maybe bite the bullet show he wants to play the strongest team and not let salaries dictate. Give washy or turner a run in the position it would be then theirs to lose!!

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Quote: Kosh "We knew that from his efforts at SH in 2007. Horne never has been a leader, even at his best. He's an out-and-out running back and works well alongside a creative SH but is lost without one. Today's HB pairing was doomed to fail and I'm not sure why Agar thought it was worth a try.'"


I could not agree more - I did not go to Wrexham so dont usually give an opinion if not at match but could not believe we went with that partnership again. If Rich Agar persists with this I am amost feeling robbed of a season already, Why did we sign Turner if we are not going with him. I hope for changes on Friday. We all love Rich Horne but I agree with most - he should not start.

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If people are insistent on moving tansey up to 6/7 then why not move Horne to FB and see how he gets on in a position he has played well in before and also gives him the luxury of coming in when he wants to.

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Quote: hullbg "If people are insistent on moving tansey up to 6/7 then why not move Horne to FB and see how he gets on in a position he has played well in before and also gives him the luxury of coming in when he wants to.'"



He was distinctly average at FB. Poor ball returns

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Quote: Jake the Peg "He was distinctly average at FB. Poor ball returns'"


Unlike the 18 clean breaks the miraculous Tansey made? I like Tansey at f/b, but his ball returns are not particularly impressive. His positioning has been good and he's been good at joining in with the line.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "He was distinctly average at FB. Poor ball returns'"


I agree icon_eek.gif icon_lol.gif

Although as the poster above says Tansey's ball returns are no better. Thankfully being a fullback isn't just about catching/picking the ball up and acting like a prop for a few seconds as some on here make out.

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Seems to me that Horne will be fit top play on Friday so he will still be in the halves without a doubt.

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Quote: PAUL M "Seems to me that Horne will be fit top play on Friday so he will still be in the halves without a doubt.'"


If so then Tansey to 7, Whiting to FB and Hall to centre with Calders on wing for me.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: PAUL M "Seems to me that Horne will be fit top play on Friday so he will still be in the halves without a doubt.'"



Put him in with Turner and see what happens.........be intresting to hear what our 2 whingers will have to say whilst the match is on... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Staffs FC "If so then Tansey to 7, Whiting to FB and Hall to centre with Calders on wing for me.'"


Tend to think Washy and Horne will get another go.

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Quote: Raggytash "Unlike the 18 clean breaks the miraculous Tansey made? I like Tansey at f/b, but his ball returns are not particularly impressive. His positioning has been good and he's been good at joining in with the line.'"



Funnily enough...someone at work made the same comment about Tanseys ball returns..........

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Quote: fc baldy "Put him in with Turner and see what happens.........be intresting to hear what our 2 whingers will have to say whilst the match is on...
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Agar talks a good game,shame he hasnt a clue how to implement it on the pitch

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