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| Quote: Irregs #12 "Rarely. Radford runs to the line, and then turns his back, thus negating his chance of making good yards. However, when he doesnt do this and runs forward he can make yards, but like i said, all too rarely'"
Used to do that all the time at Bradford, but there he had support so was able to offload on a regular basis.
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "Rarely. Radford runs to the line, and then turns his back, thus negating his chance of making good yards. However, when he doesnt do this and runs forward he can make yards, but like i said, all too rarely'"
To carry the debate on the twist in the tackle allows the offload and comes naturally from him being a backrower. If we are to use him as an out and out prop then he does need to work on this aspect.
Im not going to bore people with stats but ive just had a scan on superleague.co.uk for my own satisfaction and he is no worse than Cusack or Dowes, neither of whom are slated like Radders is. Why does Radders get the stick? My theory is because he is the captain and we have had a woeful 2 years, neither of which are valid reasons imo.
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27608.jpg Motto of the week -
It is the way of the weak to secretly bleat to those in authority rather than fight their own battles.:27608.jpg |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "To carry the debate on the twist in the tackle allows the offload and comes naturally from him being a backrower. If we are to use him as an out and out prop then he does need to work on this aspect.
Im not going to bore people with stats but ive just had a scan on superleague.co.uk for my own satisfaction and he is no worse than Cusack or Dowes, neither of whom are slated like Radders is. Why does Radders get the stick? My theory is because he is the captain and we have had a woeful 2 years, neither of which are valid reasons imo.'"
Whatever you say, Lee
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| Quote: Big Dave T "To carry the debate on the twist in the tackle allows the offload and comes naturally from him being a backrower. If we are to use him as an out and out prop then he does need to work on this aspect.
Im not going to bore people with stats but ive just had a scan on superleague.co.uk for my own satisfaction and he is no worse than Cusack or Dowes, neither of whom are slated like Radders is. Why does Radders get the stick? My theory is because he is the captain and we have had a woeful 2 years, neither of which are valid reasons imo.'" and hes from Hull.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Whatever you say, Lee
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Used to do that all the time at Bradford, but there he had support so was able to offload on a regular basis.'"
So therefore you either bollock the players not supporting him, or, if we dont adopt the "offload" tactic, which we clearly dont - he should adapt his style to maximise the yardage he makes. When you turn your back in the tackle, you almost, 100% never land on your front for a quick play the ball, our major problem this season
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "So therefore you either bollock the players not supporting him, or, if we dont adopt the "offload" tactic, which we clearly dont - he should adapt his style to maximise the yardage he makes. When you turn your back in the tackle, you almost, 100% never land on your front for a quick play the ball, our major problem this season'"
But not just radford's problem hence me defending him a lot. We only actually seem to have a handful of players that do get a quick play the ball.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "But not just radford's problem hence me defending him a lot. We only actually seem to have a handful of players that do get a quick play the ball.'"
Moa and cusack are the only ones i can think of, and tickle at times.
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27608.jpg Motto of the week -
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "So therefore you either bollock the players not supporting him, or, if we dont adopt the "offload" tactic, which we clearly dont - he should adapt his style to maximise the yardage he makes. When you turn your back in the tackle, you almost, 100% never land on your front for a quick play the ball, our major problem this season'"
Thats one of the reasons i don't subscribe to the theory of him being a prop. Prop is not as easy a position to play as many think, even more so when you have to adapt your style to suit the position rather than just play the role naturally.
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "Moa and cusack are the only ones i can think of, and tickle at times.'"
Cusack absolutely and Moa occasionally mainly due to their size. Tickle i agree but only once per game when he runs the right line to not have 3 defenders on him. Cant honestly think of anyone else, maybe Raynor due to his footwork. Motu used to every ptb.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Thats one of the reasons i don't subscribe to the theory of him being a prop. Prop is not as easy a position to play as many think, even more so when you have to adapt your style to suit the position rather than just play the role naturally.'"
TBF all you have to tell props is, run hard, run straight, get to your knees quick - when you start complicatiing the role is when you lose your way
Mind you, saying that, I like it when we use Kingy as a ball handler
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27608.jpg Motto of the week -
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "TBF all you have to tell props is, run hard, run straight, get to your knees quick - when you start complicatiing the role is when you lose your way
Mind you, saying that, I like it when we use Kingy as a ball handler'"
Really???
If it was that easy everyone would want to do it
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| Quote: Irregs #12 "TBF all you have to tell props is'"
There is a reason why certain players get picked as props and taking in instructions is not the strongest faculty for this type of person
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Really???
If it was that easy everyone would want to do it
So you would want to run at Jamie Peacock - be my guest!
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| Quote: Big Dave T "To carry the debate on the twist in the tackle allows the offload and comes naturally from him being a backrower. If we are to use him as an out and out prop then he does need to work on this aspect.
Im not going to bore people with stats but ive just had a scan on superleague.co.uk for my own satisfaction and he is no worse than Cusack or Dowes, neither of whom are slated like Radders is. Why does Radders get the stick? My theory is because he is the captain and we have had a woeful 2 years, neither of which are valid reasons imo.'"
Possible selective reading of these boards. There are plenty on here (myself included) who have criticised all 3, and would probably have at least 2 of them sent packing at the end of this season if they could.
Radford gets stick for a variety of reasons, as do several players. My theory on why he gets more than some is because he turned his back on the club for the peak years of his career, is now probably one of our bigger earners and arguably not worthy of such a position, and in many people's eyes does not justify his selection (possibly being kept in by virtue of being captain, despite not being seen to be overly effective at this either). The validity of all of these reasons is subjective.
Personally, I think he does have things to offer to the team, I'm just not convinced he has enough for where we want to be. For us to be a sufficiently better team next year, it's therefore questionable whether he should be in the team (and if he is it should be at prop, he is not suited to the back row any more).
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