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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "If it makes you sleep better thinking Long is a superstar and will transform Hull next season then fine. I happen to think the otherwise and so do the Saints board
I agree with your point about beaten forwards etc. however I think Long is a better player than Eastmond (at this stage of his career) and as such Saints may have performed better and taken better options when near the Hudds line with the better player Long playing. Whether that would have changed the result who knows.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Looked that way yesterday'"
Potter out I say.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Potter out I say.'"
Plenty of saints fans agree with you
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Plenty of saints fans agree with you'"
Who cares. The point is that Long will have an input to the attacking play structures at Saints and that doesn't mean he is doing Potter's job. I'm sure he had an input when Anderson was there as well. Is he doing the coach's job ? Nope.
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| Quote: handbrake "
Remind me, what do you base your opinions on?'"
The fact that Long plays in a team that relies heavily on ruck speed off the back of quick PTB's. When this doesn't happen he struggles as does Pryce, (which also happened on Saturday) as they don't have the time or space to create. Defenesively he is also a weak link and working channel sets on him will pay huge dividends late on in games. My guess is that Nathan Brown may have preferred the more structured approach of Long rather than the quick feet and unpredicatability of Eastmond, but their forwards won the arm wrestle so it didn't matter.
Saints are only half the side when they cannot get any momentum and despite the fact the had some good field position and posession Huddersfield defended their line superbly and short of kicks to the corner (which i think Huddersfield generally defend pretty well) i'm not sure what more Long could have done to break their line down and change the result.
But hey ho .........
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| Hey, you just about did a whole post there without an arrogant put down of someone who doesn't agree with your expert opinions. Congratulations.
Come to think about it, with this combination of arrogance and vast knowledge, I'm actually beginning to wonder if you are in fact Justin Morgan.
Back to the substance, I think when he was interviewed in the second half, Long himself had some ideas about what might be done to address their inability to turn pressure into points.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "How very dare you.
Lovely, I'll look forward to sitting next to you on a sofa after we've won the next derby match.
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| Quote: handbrake "Lovely, I'll look forward to sitting next to you on a sofa after we've won the next derby match.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Who cares. The point is that Long will have an input to the attacking play structures at Saints and that doesn't mean he is doing Potter's job. I'm sure he had an input when Anderson was there as well. Is he doing the coach's job ? Nope.'"
Yeah, but potter has already proven he has a clue and doesn't need someone else to put these structures in place. I'm sure he takes on board ideas from players and integrates these into his own plans where appropriate.
agar has proven he hasn't a clue and desperately needs someone to tell him what to do
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "How very dare you.
I think you'll find I'm Richard Agar and I claim my £5
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Yeah, but potter has already proven he has a clue and doesn't need someone else to put these structures in place. I'm sure he takes on board ideas from players and integrates these into his own plans where appropriate.
agar has proven he hasn't a clue and desperately needs someone to tell him what to do'"
So when Long has an input to our attacking play will he be doing Agar's job ? Nope.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "So when Long has an input to our attacking play will he be doing Agar's job ? Nope.'"
So if our attacking play improves out of all recognition it will be down to agar? Nope
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "So if our attacking play improves out of all recognition it will be down to agar? Nope'"
I think Hull need to dump Jon Sharp to improve their attacking play. Can't see Long sticking to such a rigid structure like Hull have now and it would be a waste of his talents if they did.
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