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Quote: gostrider "For me that comes under poor coaching though. Berro was signed to be our 9 - Agar comments 'that when Berro came on we looked better' - then subs him. Tony can play fullback and I believe has proved that. The rest I agree with. Its to easy to give them 'Utility' tags. A coaches way of saying 'god knows where to play him'. But if I took over Hull tomorrow 2 new half backs would be top of the list. Rich Horne fullback. New centre and Tony, Thorman, Radders, Washbrook, G Horne, Lee, hall would be gone'"


i know berrigan was signed as a hooker but through his career hes also played centre, stand off, scrum half and loose man

same with tony at hull hes played full back, wing, centre, hooker and probably has played stand off at some point maybe even loose man

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Quote: FC Callum "i know berrigan was signed as a hooker but through his career hes also played centre, stand off, scrum half and loose man

same with tony at hull hes played full back, wing, centre, hooker and probably has played stand off at some point maybe even loose man'"


Sorry wasnt having a go at you. Simply saying to sign Berro on such a contract and then not feel he can play 80 mins as Agar clearly doesnt means either its apoor signing - or a poor coach!

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Quote: gostrider "Sorry wasnt having a go at you. Simply saying to sign Berro on such a contract and then not feel he can play 80 mins as Agar clearly doesnt means either its apoor signing - or a poor coach!'"


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i agree with the berrigan comment, hes our big name signing and he should play the full 80 all the time when available, otherwise its a complete waste

if it is down to fitness im dreading what he will be like in the 2011 season

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im thinking that its blatantly obviuos that thorman is not the answer to our problems....and neither is fitzgibbon...we seem to panic buy when we dont get the players we need....did we need berrigan? do we need fitzgibbon? the answer in my opinion is no...we need to build a team..and unfortuantly at fc we sign individuals. dont get me wrong there great players but they arent what we need at the moment to take us further.......our team looks like a rudder-less ship with no guidence whatsoever, a shambles in many peoples eyes and i agree that our recruitmant policy is a little short of appauling at times...
i ask what will happen if we fail to land either orford or finch!!?? thorman will get another year thats for sure, can you beleive...but thats fc at the moment, a laughing stock, one of which shoots itself in the foot on more tahn one occasion a season........if thorman gets a new deal, the my pass will not be renewed in a hurry..

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Quote: berro's best mate "im thinking that its blatantly obviuos that thorman is not the answer to our problems....and neither is fitzgibbon...we seem to panic buy when we dont get the players we need....did we need berrigan? do we need fitzgibbon? the answer in my opinion is no...we need to build a team..and unfortuantly at fc we sign individuals. dont get me wrong there great players but they arent what we need at the moment to take us further.......our team looks like a rudder-less ship with no guidence whatsoever, a shambles in many peoples eyes and i agree that our recruitmant policy is a little short of appauling at times...
i ask what will happen if we fail to land either orford or finch!!?? thorman will get another year thats for sure, can you beleive...but thats fc at the moment, a laughing stock, one of which shoots itself in the foot on more tahn one occasion a season........if thorman gets a new deal, the my pass will not be renewed in a hurry..'"


I disagree with the Berrigan comment. At the time of Swain retiring, yes we needed Berrigan - has he been as influential as Swain. sadly not. However to me the signing of Dykes was key. Finally a coach in Sharp recognised we needed a top scrum half, unfortunately he was made of bolsar wood. The failing was then to replace him wit quality. Its the most integral part of a team. Fitzgibbon to me is just a 'appease the fans as Crocker aint coming signing' - and a poor one at that.

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WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! SINCE THIS MOVE IT HAS BEEN A JOKE AT FC...I CANT SAY NOMORE BECAUSE IM FUMING..SORRY icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: gostrider "I disagree with the Berrigan comment. At the time of Swain retiring, yes we needed Berrigan - has he been as influential as Swain. sadly not. However to me the signing of Dykes was key. Finally a coach in Sharp recognised we needed a top scrum half, unfortunately he was made of bolsar wood. The failing was then to replace him wit quality. Its the most integral part of a team. Fitzgibbon to me is just a 'appease the fans as Crocker aint coming signing' - and a poor one at that.'"


at the time i dont think we needed a hooker, we had wayne godwin and danny houghton, a scrum half was what we needed, we was after monaghan but was priced out by wire, so we went for berrigan so we had a name coming in

fitzgibbon is a panic signing i think

mcrae also said we needed a scrum half when he was here, we went after thorman who wasnt a bad player back then, danny orr we was after aswell

but it isnt a coincidence that when we had matty head and adam dykes playing we were a different side

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Quote: FC Callum "at the time i dont think we needed a hooker, we had wayne godwin and danny houghton, a scrum half was what we needed, we was after monaghan but was priced out by wire, so we went for berrigan so we had a name coming in

fitzgibbon is a panic signing i think

mcrae also said we needed a scrum half when he was here, we went after thorman who wasnt a bad player back then, danny orr we was after aswell

but it isnt a coincidence that when we had matty head and adam dykes playing we were a different side'"

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Quote: berro's best mate "WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! SINCE THIS MOVE IT HAS BEEN A JOKE AT FC...I CANT SAY NOMORE BECAUSE IM FUMING..SORRY
True we could have filled Hooker at the time. Although I do like the Berro signing. He is however let down by the lack of speed at the play the ball.

To see Briscoe come on at the robins does hurt but I think if we had of kicked on after Kear and brought in a top class coach and half back combination it would be us now sat at the top

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Quote: Lee_A "Im no Thorman fan but he is playing behind the worst set of forwards in SL (barring possibly Celtic). Its questionable if he could do anything ball in hand on the opposition line, but we are never going to know playing in a side with Dowes, Cusack et al in it.'"


sorry but that is absolute boll0x! Thorman like the men who brought him here , Agar and Sharp ( Crooks , Last et al ) is a proved failure. It's Thorman , OK not single handedly , who is draining our forwards of energy with his absolutely inept kicking. Worse still is that there are no saving graces. It's not as though it's his kicking game that is poor just now but his defence , passing , stepping , etc is great is it. The really depressing thing is that by spending a fortune on Fitzgibbon , a player by his own admission that wants to stay in the NRL but knew he couldn't , it looks like our SH for 2010 and beyond is going to be the geordie boy.
I am thoroughly depressed.

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The sad thing is that he did nothing wrong when he was with Huddersfield but since he's come to you he has been truly awfull. Can't believe he has the nerve to take a wage home after such an awfull display last night. Needs to take a long, hard look at himself and then do your club a favour and launch himself off the Humber Bridge. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: FC Callum "i honestly dont understand why he was signed in the first place

jon sharpe signed luke robinson to play scrum half for 2008 so thorman moved to full back because he wasnt good enough

so how come 1 year later he is suddenly good enough to play there for us


complete lack of common sense'"


That's a question I've been asking sincee we signed Thorman, And one I've put to both Agar and Sharp without getting an answer.

Why did we get rid of Webster to sign Thorman, I for one hope everything I'm hearing about Webster coming back is true.

Simple fact is since Mcrae left we haven't gone forward as a club we've gone backwards and it's all down to one person at the club Kath Hetherington, The sooner she is gone the better we may then get a top class coach as well as some decent players..

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Quote: berro's best mate "WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! '"

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