And organiastion skills, something we havent had since Cooke left.

I think they will work well, not brilliant, but the one year deal allows Thorman too prove he is worth keeping in 2010.

Even if he stays I think we will sign a SH for 2010.

If as claimed by Jon Sharp and others that Thorman is a vocal player on the field then he will bring in something which we lack, as well as a semblance of a kicking game. Sharp commented that Hull is a quiet team and it needs to change - it's a root cause of our obvious lack of organisation last year. Ideally we'd want more than that from a half but may have to wait a year for that so we get on with it. I'm sure with Motu as our third pivot, pivoting all over the place at the back, we'll be OK.

Which is a concern, I hope we don't get another season of "interesting" substitutions and tactical changes.

Thats a very good point actually. I think people are looking at how poor we were in attack last year and forgetting we were missing our first choice 1,6,7,9 (when Berro was moved) and 13 (washy had to play at 6 most of the year) for most of the season. No wonder we lacked any sort of organisation.

Aye, pretty much how I see it also.

You cant forget pre-planned substitutions based on time, regardless of how the player is actually performing.

We played our best last season when Dykes was on the field, and that was because he was a gobby sod!

My prediction is Albo will walk after a few games and Jon-Boy will take over .

Shhh, you're not allowed to doubt Agar as a coach, I can hear the natives rushing for their pitchforks!

Only for CC games mainly.

Hang on a minute - we made the final but lost (and he didn't play).
Proof if it were needed how important the organisation aspect is to any team.

I'm not criticising the releasing of Dykes - simply stating the importance of a player like him who tells others what they should be doing and where they should be doing it - see previous posts.

I think most of the sensible posters on here realise Agar has a lot to learn as a Head coach but are prepared to give him a season to see how he develops. By the end of next season we will all have a clearer idea of just what sort of coach he is. I was one of those underwhelmed when he was given the length of contract he got but I'm prepared to give him a full season to see how he goes.

Very sensible.

Anyone else sick of this situation on here where you either have surgically attached black and white glasses/blinkers or else you are the biggest anti FC moaning git of all time ?

Schoolboy stuff.

Problem is, if he turns out to be gash, he has a long contract. He's a nice guy, in fact too nice.