The players play the game, Radford is clearly a competent coach (or have we forgotten the CC win), too many players not fronting up.

Our biggest problem and it's been an issue all season is our discipline, to give away penalties repeated with ball in hand is criminal, we where getting in control of the game, 8 points down, ball in hand, Leeds down to 12 and 20 mins left and we give away a penalty.

Defence and handling has been appalling last two games.

Not much can be changed within this squad, massive and must win game, lose that and I'd be really worried about this season.

Salford and Leeds are both top 3 sides this year, which is arguably the more relevant fact. 18 tries is awful regardless, granted.

Only relevant in the fact that they've gone forwards whilst we've gone backwards. I don;t accept that either of them are that good. How many other 50 point hammerings have either dished out on their travels this season?

You're painting them as amongst the worst teams by referencing last season's positiosn. The fact is they are 2nd and 3rd best so far this.

The fact is you were telling me we had the best defence in the league a fortnight ago so I'll take your facts with a pinch of salt

But neither side look all that though, you must agree. I cannot accept 2 50 point home defeats back to back against such opposition. Salford have clearly improved a massive amount, but Leeds IMO are not all that at all.

Agreed. They looked flakey as hell when we came back to 24-32 then we decided to throw any opportunity we had away

They're not I completely agree. But equally they are not relegation fodder as suggested by referencing last year's position.

I don't think up until a year ago you ever conceded 50 pts at the KC ,and to do it two times in 7 days is remarkable, do you think Kelly is unhappy and collaborating with the opposition and telling them your team strategy ?

But that was a fact. No salt required. And that was against teams mostly in last year's top 8 of course.

think Radford wasn't far of when he said win 2 games here and where world beaters lose 2 and where doomed,

Dont think its the loss of two games thats the worry,its the manner in which we have lost them.
We have gone from having the best defence in the league to conceding over 100 points in two home games.
Embarrasing and unprofessional.
As bad as Child was there is no excuse what so ever for our lack of discipline,ball retention and try line defence.

It wasn't a fact at all. That we'd conceded fewest points around 1/4 way through the season doesn't mean we have the comp's best defence, same as leeds being in 3rd place after 1/3 of the season doesn't make them the 3rd best team in the comp. Not a difficult concept I wouldn't have thought

Said last week defence was going west last couple of weeks and got shot down by someone. Lack of focus by some in my view. Lots of switching off going on.