'Rugby related costs.' I'd be interested to see how Hull FC supposedly rack up more of the loss than Hull City. I have a strong suspicion that the 'exceptional repairs' and grounds maintenance etc may have been split down the middle, despite City using the ground around 2/3rds more often. Just can't see how we can cause more than twice the amount of losses City do with less use of the stadium.

Also, HDM shouldn't be criticised too much for printing the statement. They ran the feature on Johnny Whiteley, they are now rightly publishing the response, and will probably also print any response they now receive to that. It's not like they've said they agree with/believe it.

In which case it's hard to make an informed opinion personally. It's easy to think of the Allams being the bad guys, not saying they are not, but someof what they say could be true.

My experience of things like this is that it's usually a bit of both.

Could some sort of protest be organised for Hull's next home game vs Warrington?

The Whiteley masks was a good idea, or a boycot of the food & drink outlets (does that money go to the SMC or is it a separate catering company?).

10,000+ Hull fans holding up an A4 sized slogan each saying 'We want an independant SMC' (or something similar), would get peoples attention too.

Correct - all the best lies contain an element of truth. For instance, CS makes a good point above about the 'Rugby Related Costs', as does Mrs B about the convenient change in accounting practice.

Usually a confidentiality clause is binding to all parties, That's why the Allam's using the SMC to actually make this statement has surprised me.

The fact that they are giving out figures relating to Hull Fc and the Council has to be in breach of any clause if Hull Fc can not make a response as to why they refuse to pay for for any pictures being put up in the stadium

The SMC made a modest profit for the years up until the Allams took it on, FACT, the SMC had £1.2m in the bank at the last set of accounts, but still posted a loss, FACT.

There's something odd about the situation.

Lots of management speak nonsense in that statement which is basically designed to pull the wool over the eyes of stupid people. So they've 'benchmarked' the cost of hanging up pictures, in my experience 'benchmarking' is always used as an excuse to hide behind dubious decisions. And as for the change in accounting practices I nearly died laughing at that one.

I am pretty sure neither Huddersfield nor Wigan pay extra, but then, their stadia are managed by independent bodies.

lets face it, this whole issue is finished, most will believe the HDM article, the club can't say anything.

Anyone still want to say the SMC user agreement is not a mill stone round the clubs neck?

That would be why it was seperated from the one before.


Wrong. On a number of levels. You carry on though and see where it gets you.

Especially when you factor in Hull City's accounts prior to the Allam takeover showed a net worth of minus £30m, their July 2012 accounts show a net worth of minus £50m.

Also, he's blaming others for hidden costs etc. whatever happened to caveat emptor?

Totally agree.

If and I'm assuming they are in breach of any clauses, Surely the Council can terminate the agreement they have with the Allam's

Game over. This is exactly what 180,000 people in this area that have no interest in FC will think. This is going to prove a very difficult fight to win.

For me the alot of the information in the SMC statement should have remained behind closed doors. All this statement does whether factual or not is paint both Hull FC and HCC as the wrong doers as it was intended and all the people with no real interest will only see it one way.

There are holes in all the PR releases, statements the Allams release and seem to be adjusting their story and figures to suit as they go along.

There is only one aim here and it is so plain to see, they are trying to force the Council to give up the Stadium by stripping all income streams to it and leaving both the Stadium & HCC isolated with no other option.
For a some one who claims to be man of his word why hasn't he started building the ASSET STRIPPING ALLAM Stadium at Melton yet??? Surely a man so wealthy shouldnt have a problem funding it himself....... oh hang on a minute.