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| Quote: Jake the Peg "The match will sell out anyway so why should they care about you?
SKY give Hull nearly £1m a year, who do you think they care more about? Plus the club are contractually obliged to play when SKY tell them'"
Plus the double bubble of the fee from sky.
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| Quote: blakeysrobin "Plus the double bubble of the fee from sky.'"
Yeah, forgot about that. Must have been a tough choice then
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Yeah, forgot about that. Must have been a tough choice then
there is no Sky fee
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| Quote: Oldham Rhino "Jeez, all I did was quote a couple of lines from the Super League website.
As you can see it's a sensitive subject on this site, and rightly so for some. 3 weeks (ish) notice for a fixture change that has already gone on sale is well out of order. I know that they can do that because Sky dictate the game, that doesnt make it right though. I'm lucky, i can probably arrange my meeting away from Hull to finish a little earlier thats been scheduled for months on the Thursday so i get back into Hull for kick off. Others like hfc herts may have gone through the bother of re arranging shifts at work and pre-booking cheaper trains from the south etc. I'm guessing the RFL wont re-fund tickets purchased that cant now be honoured for rail travel?
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| i was annoyed when they changed it as i work shifts and had to request an early for the friday in the first place, HOWEVER my very nice colleague has swapped shifts with me, means me doing a double shift the Monday but hell im off to the derby game and thats great
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| Quote: Big Dave T "As you can see it's a sensitive subject on this site, and rightly so for some. '"
I appreciate things are sensitive. But I only quoted facts. I feel sorry for hfc_herts. He's been crapped on from a great height but not as much as the Harlequins fans last season who got short notice about a change to their trip to Catalans.
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| Quote: hfc herts "Firstly Mr Rhino why don't you disappear to your own forum and keep your nose out of matters that do not concern you.
As for you lovely supporters who want us all to be good and loyal and drop everything simply because the RFL , Sky and the two clubs in Hull say we have to its not so bl00dy easy.
Two years ago I was told that I was not really part of the clubs plans along with many many more fans who live away from Hull. Yes people do actually move away from the area and still support the club they love. Bizzare I know for such a little sport like RL.
I have had to accept that as a non season ticket holder now I am no longer valued by both the club and some keyboard warriors on her who think they are greater than most because their disposable income goes on watching Hull FC and beers, as opposed to family and mortgages.
But I am on Hull FC's mailing list. I have had numerous emails telling me to get my tickets early for the Derby. Heaven forbid I miss out on getting my favourite seat for the biggest game on our league programme.
So I bought my ticket 3 weeks ago. I bought my rail ticket 3 weeks ago. I booked my annual leave 5 months ago. My job is not one were I can say on Monday I want Friday off and all around me drop everything to cover me.
So are you with me so far. I have simply moved heaven and earth to see games this season and especially to ensure I get to the Derby.
I have seen the press release that says we have sold 16000 tickets which is more than ever before at this stage of the build up.
Then bang its all change.
The club must have known about this for days as they have consulted with Police and SMC. Yet they still proceed with the marketing to get us all to purchase tickets. WTF did they not give us prior notice? Why not hold off selling tickets? Seems we went through this 2 years ago when we decided on Fridays only.
It simply serves to alianate us the fans.
The game is over 100 years old. The club is nearly 150 years old, yet we seem to think that Sky if they pull out will lead to the sport collapsing. Cods wallop. They said that when ITV pulled out of football.Clubs would disappear and the game would change. Ok Grimsby have struggled. They have found their level more like.
If clubs need the Sky money to balance books and pay full time wages then maybe they need to be more prudent. Sky could go at any time regardless of Hull and Rovers playing on a Thursday. The game will survive without a shadow of doubt.
If the RFL and clubs want us to follow them then they have to start having some consideration for those of us who purchase tickets, shirts , etc etc which I am certain is far more than what Sky give collectively.
So this fan now has to go out of his way to get a refund. A change of annual leave is not an option for me. I have to try and get a train ticket refund and in all honesty I wonder why we bother.
Why would I buy a ticket in advance in future when there is absoluelty no chance of knowing if the game will go ahead on the date on the ticket? If they can do this to fans following the biggest supported game of the season they can easily do it for any game they please.
So Mr Rhino consider other please before spouting drivel and all of you who state "well you have enough notice to change your plans" it may be easy for you in your ivory tower but for alot of us its dam near impossible and will serve to simply turn some of us away from a game we love far more than execs at Sky and the RFL.'"
woah, im guessing your rather peeved off??? this (for once) aint the clubs fault, sky pulls the strings, and for "most" people a month is enough notice!
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| Quote: Oldham Rhino "I appreciate things are sensitive. But I only quoted facts. I feel sorry for hfc_herts. He's been crapped on from a great height but not as much as the Harlequins fans last season who got short notice about a change to their trip to Catalans.'"
now that situation was sh*te, alot more than ours (which, im not too bothered about tbh)
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| Quote: Oldham Rhino "I appreciate things are sensitive. But I only quoted facts. I feel sorry for hfc_herts. He's been crapped on from a great height but not as much as the Harlequins fans last season who got short notice about a change to their trip to Catalans.'"
This is not a my cats blacker than your cat situation. This is about 16000 people buying tickets / passes for a Friday night game. Of those a fare proportion will have made arrangements to swap shifts, get baby sitters make travel arrangements etc. That plus a club who have been bigging this match u big style to ensure we get our tickets early to avoid disappointment. Then 3 weeks before hand 16000 people are expected to drop everything and make alternative arrangements.
Rhinos vs Oldham might affect a couple of hundred people. Hull Salford may affect a few thousand, Hull Rovers affects the biggest crowd of the season. It should have been sorted before tickets went on sale. Quote the RFL all you like it does not make it morally correct. And certainly not the actons of an organisation which is constantly trying to attract new supporters.
I am sure the RFL and Sky are acting within their agreements but do you seriously think this is something that we as fans should just say " ah well 5h1t happens from time to time" because I for one and I am sure I am not the only one am getting somewhat sick of this being done at the expense of loyal supporters of any club.
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| Quote: hfc herts "This is not a my cats blacker than your cat situation. This is about 16000 people buying tickets / passes for a Friday night game. Of those a fare proportion will have made arrangements to swap shifts, get baby sitters make travel arrangements etc. That plus a club who have been bigging this match u big style to ensure we get our tickets early to avoid disappointment. Then 3 weeks before hand 16000 people are expected to drop everything and make alternative arrangements.
Rhinos vs Oldham might affect a couple of hundred people. Hull Salford may affect a few thousand, Hull Rovers affects the biggest crowd of the season. It should have been sorted before tickets went on sale. Quote the RFL all you like it does not make it morally correct. And certainly not the actons of an organisation which is constantly trying to attract new supporters.
I am sure the RFL and Sky are acting within their agreements but do you seriously think this is something that we as fans should just say " ah well 5h1t happens from time to time" because I for one and I am sure I am not the only one am getting somewhat sick of this being done at the expense of loyal supporters of any club.'"
but sh*t does happen from time to time, such is life, the game will still attract a massive crowd, possibly close to a sell out, tbh im not sure what the fans could do to air thier concerns, if it had been changed to the saturday, no one would have been bothered! get over it mate, its going to happen anyway
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| Quote: hfc herts "This is not a my cats blacker than your cat situation. This is about 16000 people buying tickets / passes for a Friday night game. Of those a fare proportion will have made arrangements to swap shifts, get baby sitters make travel arrangements etc. That plus a club who have been bigging this match u big style to ensure we get our tickets early to avoid disappointment. Then 3 weeks before hand 16000 people are expected to drop everything and make alternative arrangements.
Rhinos vs Oldham might affect a couple of hundred people. Hull Salford may affect a few thousand, Hull Rovers affects the biggest crowd of the season. It should have been sorted before tickets went on sale. Quote the RFL all you like it does not make it morally correct. And certainly not the actons of an organisation which is constantly trying to attract new supporters.
I am sure the RFL and Sky are acting within their agreements but do you seriously think this is something that we as fans should just say " ah well 5h1t happens from time to time" because I for one and I am sure I am not the only one am getting somewhat sick of this being done at the expense of loyal supporters of any club.'"
I agree with what you are saying. I do feel sorry for you and hope if you do complain you get somewhere. Certain fixtures can be moved easily. This I suppose isn't one because of all the security issues around it.
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| Quote: Oldham Rhino "I agree with what you are saying. I do feel sorry for you and hope if you do complain you get somewhere. Certain fixtures can be moved easily. This I suppose isn't one because of all the security issues around it.'"
You are a fine one to talk, what about the Whinos playing Wigan at same time as cricket? your club reduced your capacity to 10k, you could not even sell that out
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| My first child is due on the 15th of july, having planned my procreation to coincide with the derby game ( i.e i would of had ample time to witness birth name child etc etc. ) I am now in the unfortunate position that i may not be able to witness my firstborn being brought into the world, much worse the missus will punish me by dressing him/her in red and white babygro's
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| Quote: Hull Kingston Convicts "You are a fine one to talk, what about the Whinos playing Wigan at same time as cricket? your club reduced your capacity to 10k, you could not even sell that out'"
But the crowd was actually similar to recent challenge cup ties at Headingley between the two clubs. Jog on sunshine.
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| Well i'm glad the clipper race is stopping it from being on the saturday, it's the lads birthday on the 17th and the mrs wouldn't of been happy with me missing half the party so i'm lucky it has been moved forward than back.
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