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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Rumour is that that isn't down to Radford, certain posters on here would have you think Radford has turned us into an attacking force using all his guile and know-how overnight...it aint so.
Though winning is the name of the game, I still don't want Radford at the helm, he's shown to have too many negative traits, too much to say about the fans in a negative light, isn't a man manager of any sort. Short of winning silverware this season I want him gone from a personal POV, if we don't make top 6 by season end he goes because frankly anything less just isn't good enough and is yet another season of failure and another backward step from where we were in 2012/2013.'"
According to expro/icecreamans new guise its all the work of some motivational guru!
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| Radford deserves a share of the credit for the recent upturn in our form but lets not get carried away as we have some difficult fixtures coming up. The reality is that he will be the coach until at least the end of the season so let's judge him then.
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| Quote: Diogenes "Radford deserves a share of the credit for the recent upturn in our form but lets not get carried away as we have some difficult fixtures coming up. The reality is that he will be the coach until at least the end of the season so let's judge him then.'"
Well said the players & coaching staff take flack when they get it wrong so credit to all when due, 1game at a time eh.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "According to expro/icecreamans new guise its all the work of some motivational guru!'"
So are you insinuating a lie?
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "You make me laugh bumpy!'"
It's hilarious how you and a few others think Radford is up to the job on his own, events and performances have proven otherwise, don't let any connection you have with him get in the way of logic and the reality of what has happened and what IS happening an why.
However previous performances and idiotic nonsense spouted by Radford aside, the nail in the coffin for me was the way he derided the fans, not just once but several times over left a very very bitter taste in my mouth. What little respect I had left for him as a person went that day, as a coach, he's proven jack-all except for those highlighted issues I've mentioned time and again. He's not changed my mind on those issues because of a couple of decent performances..
HTH
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "It's hilarious how you and a few others think Radford is up to the job on his own, events and performances have proven otherwise, don't let any connection you have with him get in the way of logic and the reality of what has happened and what IS happening an why.
However previous performances and idiotic nonsense spouted by Radford aside, the nail in the coffin for me was the way he derided the fans, not just once but several times over left a very very bitter taste in my mouth. What little respect I had left for him as a person went that day, as a coach, he's proven jack-all except for those highlighted issues I've mentioned time and again. He's not changed my mind on those issues because of a couple of decent performances..
HTH'"
FFS!!!
You're beginning to sound a little desperate and pathetic with this defending the fans honour bollox, especially trying to justify it for the once or twice a season the club has the pleasure of your company.
Radford has made mistakes, most can see that, it's what happens when you are new to a different environment.
Because of the recent upturn in results, and to some extent,performance, the majority I'd say, are desperate to get behind the club and help with any encouragement they can so hopefully we can push on.
The problem with you being you've dug such a big fooking hole for yourself it's impossible to park the shovel in your shed for any short period of time.
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| Quote: WIZEB "FFS!!!
You're beginning to sound a little desperate and pathetic with this defending the fans honour bollox, especially trying to justify it for the once or twice a season the club has the pleasure of your company.
Radford has made mistakes, most can see that, it's what happens when you are new to a different environment.
Because of the recent upturn in results, and to some extent,performance, the majority I'd say, are desperate to get behind the club and help with any encouragement they can so hopefully we can push on.
The problem with you being you've dug such a big fooking hole for yourself it's impossible to park the shovel in your shed for any short period of time.'"
Well said, the haters wanted the club to fail so they can say "told you so" with their little petitions! No time for them, I back the club no matter who's in charge or who's on the team sheet. #COYH.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You were hopeless though and only won the LLS because no one else could string any performances together and would have likely lost the final had wigan not had a thug playing for them.
I think we should go into the game with a good chance. If we match you in the forwards I think our halfs will win the game for us plus pryce will hopefully have a blinder against his former club'" ...
HOPELESS?...we spent the latter half of the season with players playing in different positions because of injuries..wilkin.(mr tortoise) playing at stand off..no wellens...walsh..armor...lomax...etc...we all thought at one spell cunningham was going to get his boots out again the injury situation was that bad..as for the 12 men of wigan in the grand final..no one knows what would have happened..i remember many moons ago saints were playing the pies at central park and 2 saints players got sent off..but we still beat them with 11 men and put 50 past them...any way enough of all this chit chat..best of luck for the rest of the season..(apart from friday)..and i hope you knock the rhinos out the cup!
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| Despite all he's won, some Leeds fans still aren't sure about McDermott.
I agree with bumpy though. We lose its radfords fault, we start winning and the credit sits with anyone other than radford. 6 from 7, CCQF, 3 points off 4th with a game in hand. Radford out.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Well said, the haters wanted the club to fail so they can say "told you so" with their little petitions! No time for them, I back the club no matter who's in charge or who's on the team sheet.
Most support the club whoever plays in the shirt, but we are entitled to say if the end product is dull and boring.
We certainly aint worth £24 a game, save for the last 2 games, much more effort and a bit of entertainment.
So onwards and upwards, can wait to see the Wembley stewards dealing with 25000 Hull fans all chucking goodies at the players
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| Are some fans seriously suggesting that the sudden upturn in performance is because of fan pressure changing Radford's philosophy? Jesus wept.
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| Quote: *1865* "Are some fans seriously suggesting that the sudden upturn in performance is because of fan pressure changing Radford's philosophy? Jesus wept.'"
Hi 1865, im not sure you understand the mechanics of fan praise/criticism of a head coach.
Bad performances and results = all the coachs fault.
Good performances and results = any factor other than the coach is credited.
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Hi 1865, im not sure you understand the mechanics of fan praise/criticism of a head coach.
Bad performances and results
Expert analysis!!
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| Quote: *1865* "Are some fans seriously suggesting that the sudden upturn in performance is because of fan pressure changing Radford's philosophy? Jesus wept.'"
I've not suggested that but I have questioned why we have shown more attacking flair, been promoting the off load, having dummy runners and angled runners and even support play in the last two games than in the entire 18 months of dire rugby under Radford?
It has seemingly changed very rapidly so the question is why? What has changed and why now?
This is why the fans are frustrated as we have the players capable in the squad to be able to compete far better than they have. If it is down to Radford then credit to him but it has been such a massive shift in the way we have played. For me I'm just not sure its all down to Radford as he's shown very little in the 18 month previously to show he is a capable coach.
Whether we like it or not we have been here before many times over the past 8/9 years and seen so many signs of promise disappear just as fast as they appear as we continually fail to progress and maintain any type of consistency.
Its not so much the fact we have lost games that bothers me more the poor performances and general lack of structure that has been evident in the games and even in games we have won at times its been awful to watch.
That for me is why even though they have improved things in two games they all as a group players and coaches included need to prove its not just another flash in the pan before we start hanging out the bunting.
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| Quote: *1865* "Are some fans seriously suggesting that the sudden upturn in performance is because of fan pressure changing Radford's philosophy? Jesus wept.'"
Keep having to have my sides stitched up when I think about it.
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