like ive said before our team isnt that bad, yeh ok we could do with 1 or 2 more signings in certain positions but when you look at wigan team on paper it isnt great, leeds,saints,wire have all better teams on paper but its the coaching. if we had a top class coach and we were well orginised ect then alot of our current players would look alot better the likes of yeamen,tansey,horne ect who have been critisised recently. when mcguire took other wigan he brought in 1 player in deacon who hasnt played alot at all and turned them from finishing 5th or whatever it was to top of league comfortably playing some great attacking rugby without bringing a wholelot of players in. what im saying is alot of our players who arnt really performing atm but under a good coach these players would flurish

Say Wigan finish 1 Warrington 2 and both DON:T make the Grand Final and Warrington don't make the Cup Final How would they fan feel ..Its possible the Grand Final could be Saints v Leeds plus the Cup Final could be Saint/Leeds v Catalan it just one of those seasons were anything could happen ..The Grand Final could even be 2 dark (horses ) Teams

Forget form; the Wigan players are a different class. Yes they are playing better, but they are also better.

Perhaps could make a case for Manu (btw it is a scandal he's in the england squad.)

Carmont Ill give you as an average NRL player, I remember we were heavily linked to him about six years ago when he was mostly playing premier league rugby, Roberts was quality and had good spells with numerous clubs, Richards was also making a very good reputation for himself as the typical modern athletic winger, and raised a few eyebrows when he left the NRL and from what I recall came here on the back of scoring one of the best ever try's in a grand final, at the time I considered both top class signings for Wigan and that has been proven.

Really?
You'll have to remind me of the people who used the term, "excellent side".'"

I didn't use quotation marks, HTH.'"

The coach i go to all the away games on is definately an Agar out coach, with the majority of them not happy with the very miniscule progress he has made. The majority of the people who sit around me at the KC also feel the same. And at Murrayfield before the game nearly everyone i spoke to was dissapointed with him.


Now that to me says it is the minority who think Agar is the man for the job, either that or i just seem to attract Hull fans who dislike him as a coach.

When you couple this with fans from other teams making comments on this forum that we need to get shut of Agar it tells a different story.

So I am sure if this is the view of the majority it WILL reflect in next seasons pass sales and we should be 1000s down...But I bet we are not!

I think they will be down, but we are the most "faithful/gullible" fans out there

Depends how you define fickle. I am not fickle i felt last season Agar should have gone, and like many others gave him the benefit of the doubt for this season but still felt he wasn't the man for the job. I really have not changed my opinion throughout all of this.

I do know what you mean though, you get some who are happy to Agar bash when losing but soon switch over when we get a couple of wins.

It was not personal and I know you have not rated Agar from the beginning...

It is like I pointed out though it is the same people waiting on the sidelines to do the bashing when we lose...it just gets so boring, and I have noticed it is getting very personal toward certain posters...so many keyboard warriors
The majority of fans will reflect on the season and remmeber the atmopshere at the Saints game and other games which entertained them, they will go through winter and then buy their passes, they go to watch rugby and hope to win some-thing if they do then great, if they don't they will dream the dream for the following year, at the end of the day it is just a sport