I'd like to as James Rule what has prompted the change in attitude towards the coaching job.

Our last two coaches took us to a Challenge Cup win and a Grand Final appearance even though they had not been given the opportunity to make the team 'their own' then quickly dispatched when things weren't going so well. Yet under Richard Agar we have finished 11th & 12th and play some of the worst rugby I've seen in twenty odd years of following Hull but he is given a two year extention with I'm guessing a worse record than the two previous coaches!

The obvious answer, which he won't give, is that due to the continued off the field success results on the pitch have little or no significance to the club. It's a business after all!

I probably won't bother asking though because the BS answer will just wind me up and I'll end up getting thrown out.

dont ask you wont get an answer.then you will come on here and moan again!!!!

If you're a professional hand wringer you'll bitch about anything.

Oh silly silly Stu. He obviously left his diary on the bedside table before briefing Ganson prior to the Wakey match.

And on the disallowed Yeaman "try" why did the video referee a) not penalise Wakey for offside - the whole defensive line clearly never retired and this was blatant when checking where Yeaman was &/or b) If (a) is ignored why not disallow the try for the clearly incorrect play the ball by Tansey rather than the more difficult to judge and obscure offence of Yeaman being in front of the play the ball?

Because they make it up as they go along!

The majority of RL fans say that video refs are great when in discussion about video analysis in football. Yet the only thing the video system does is highlight the fact that our refs know very little about the rules of our game!

People moan when they do Forums they moan when they don't do them, simple thing is really People Moan (particularly on here).

The fact is whether folks like it or not you can ring a dIrector every week, send stuff in on a rant line, and attend a face to face meeting with the coach and administrators 4 times a year. Name another club that does that much to facilitate moaners.

Most other clubs offers half of that and yet most folks on here who moan have not used any of these mediums to complain. Yes, complain about the club the coach, the administration, the fact we still have no flags this season, in fact whatever you like, because thats your right as a fan, but don't bitch about the best facilties there are in the League to do it! Its just biching for bitchings sake!

Not for much longer, I renewed my pass for this season against better judgement hoping our new signings would help reinstate the kind of entertaining rugby I enjoy watching. Obviously this hasn't happened and it's becoming an effort to actually bother to go to the KC, so this season will be my last.

Your right to not go but have seen a damn sight worse than this and i still go.

Totally agree although guess I can't stay away, but worse? We don't know the half of it these days!

You are totally right we have seen worse than this, however i feel the big big difference now is that in previous bad times we had nothing in place to suggest that anything but bad times were inevitable. As a result of this we as fans accepted the bad times and knew good times would return and the old faithful in any kind of weather stayed true

Now the total difference is everything off the pitch is in place ie. stadium, merchandising, marketing, communications and record sponsorship deals. However we choose a cheap option in the coaching department, our recruitment and retention of players is questionable at times and due to financial restraints etc. peoples loyalty to the club is not as prominent and commitment can be questioned more.

How many times have we been excited by the rugby seen at the KC in the last 2-3 seasons? Barring the Saints game at home this season, i am struggling to think of another game. We all pay enough to be entertained yet our delightful board do not appear to see it this way and we feel we our commitment to the team we all love (and will still support once this shower have long gone) is being taken for granted