The majority of the faithful are upset and have every right to be at the minute...3 wins out of the last 11 games, disgraceful!

8 of those games were last season so we must have won plenty too cos we finished 6th!!!!!!

Also I am not kidding, there will have been plenty wanting us lose today.

Will you be apologising to Ogre if it turns out he did nothing wrong?

So if Orge has flicked the V's again I am going on pure speculation here, but IF he has. It isn't acceptable. End of.

As I say if it would have being one of the lesser players doing this then they would be an uproar.

I have no problem with orge telling the fans he thinks the banner should be put down or if later in the week he questioned the fans support. However to flick the V's is completely out of order.

Just trying to lighten the mood before some fans hang themselves!

It's not just the fact we have lost - it's the way we've lost them too. We've shown little improvement from last year IMO and if anything are worse. Leeds always looked like winning against us, with 4 of their key players out, then went the week after and got beat at home by Harlequins. Hull KR, after beating us, lost their next team games (albeit one against Wire) yet cut through us at will. We've learnt no lessons from last year, we still can't back up, we still can't play the ball quickly and we still don't have halves who control the game.

Why wasn't it? It was 10-10 for quite a while. Even at 14-10 we had a shot.

I honestly don't believe he flicked the Vs. Like I said, he was certainly hacked off and motioned a few times to get rid of the banner but that's all. The large number of our fans chanting his name afterwards suggests they saw the same and agreed with him.

No he should not have reacted whatsoever!...he gets paid to play rugby for Hull FC if he has a problem with the fans he should go through the correct channels and not react on the pitch in full view!