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| Quote: wotsupcas "Really can't understand all the debate on this one . Ellis was guilty of recklessly striking Simone in the head. Note , not deliberately but recklessly'"
Well you're wrong on the reckless for starters. How is it reckless or even careless for that matter that in the normal action of restricting a player from offloading the ball and/or tackling that due to the sudden and unpredictable movement of the attacking player minimal contact with the bicep/upper arm occurs that would not have occured if the attacking player had remained in the same position at the beginning of the motion that was shown.
To expect Ellis (or any other player) to mid motion react to the attacking players change in body position beyond the bounds of a human beings synaptic responses never mind the additional time of the motor action of physically moving the part of the body in line with avoiding contact to the head is both ludicrous and unfair.
As I stated earlier, Stewart from Catalans 'deliberately' lifts a players leg leaving them in a vulnerable position one that we know can lead to life changing injuries. And yet the panel decides that that was by far a lesser offence because the tackled player was lucky enough to land ok and Stewart received a caution on 'technique'
Debate/discuss why?
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| let's not kid ourselves, he's a big loss for the catalans game. someone will have to step their game up to take on their pack
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| Just seen chester's post match comments on the SL show. Acted like a complete dick
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Well you're wrong on the reckless for starters. How is it reckless or even careless for that matter that in the normal action of restricting a player from offloading the ball and/or tackling that due to the sudden and unpredictable movement of the attacking player minimal contact with the bicep/upper arm occurs that would not have occured if the attacking player had remained in the same position at the beginning of the motion that was shown.
To expect Ellis (or any other player) to mid motion react to the attacking players change in body position beyond the bounds of a human beings synaptic responses never mind the additional time of the motor action of physically moving the part of the body in line with avoiding contact to the head is both ludicrous and unfair.
As I stated earlier, Stewart from Catalans 'deliberately' lifts a players leg leaving them in a vulnerable position one that we know can lead to life changing injuries. And yet the panel decides that that was by far a le offence because the tackled player was lucky enough to land ok and Stewart received a caution on 'technique'
Debate/discuss why?'"
It is actually careless.
Knowing what the possible outcome of your actions could be and still doing it regardless makes it careless even though your sole intention was not the direct result that occurred.
Let's not go down this mythical he was trying to prevent an off load excuse either.
He was swinging in with a straight arm at pace which is not how you prevent an off load.
Ellis was going for the big shot and unfortunately mistimed it. Not intentional, just careless.
We as Hull fans get so defensive when anyone dares to criticise our club or players on here.
Some of the debate/argument is quite ridiculous and purile at times.
Ellis himself in the HDM alludes to such when he states he plays close to the line.
Gutted he is missing Friday but we would expect the same had the boot been on the other foot.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Just seen chester's post match comments on the SL show. Acted like a complete dick'"
Who did, you or Chester?
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| Quote: chissitt "Who did, you or Chester?'"
Both of us. He acted like a 5 year old in the playground and I fell off the sofa laughing at him
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| He was careless and deserved a match for a high shot IMO.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "It is actually careless.
Knowing what the possible outcome of your actions could be and still doing it regardless makes it careless even though your sole intention was not the direct result that occurred.
Let's not go down this mythical he was trying to prevent an off load excuse either.
He was swinging in with a straight arm at pace which is not how you prevent an off load.
Ellis was going for the big shot and unfortunately mistimed it. Not intentional, just careless.
We as Hull fans get so defensive when anyone dares to criticise our club or players on here.
Some of the debate/argument is quite ridiculous and purile at times.
Ellis himself in the HDM alludes to such when he states he plays close to the line.
Gutted he is missing Friday but we would expect the same had the boot been on the other foot.'"
What this guy says, all day long. We all know Ellis isn't a dirty player but he's gone in hard and unfortunately got it wrong. People who think a ban was unjust should take their tinted specs off. Had a Hull player kopped a shot in the chops like that we'd be fuming. Gonna be a miss for Friday that's for sure.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Just seen chester's post match comments on the SL show. Acted like a complete dick'"
That's some sense of humour you have if you fell of the sofa laughing at a 5 year old
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| Quote: chissitt "That's some sense of humour you have if you fell of the sofa laughing at a 5 year old
He isn't 5 as far as I'm aware
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "He isn't 5 as far as I'm aware'"
Well why allude to it that he is then?
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| Quote: chissitt "Well why allude to it that he is then?'"
If you read his post properly you will see he said that he was acting like a 5 year old, not that he was that age.
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| Quote: chissitt "Well why allude to it that he is then?'"
Watch it. He was pathetic
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Watch it. He was pathetic'"
And incorrect! Amazing how Radford called it spot on despite having the same amount of time to analyse it. Poor Chezzie.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "If you read his post properly you will see he said that he was acting like a 5 year old, not that he was that age.'"
Much obliged for clearing the matter up.
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