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Too much dumb stuff tonight and 2 points thrown away. Fook knows how ranking has been playing every week whilst shaul has been sat twiddling his thumbs. ranking can't catch or tackle

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I think our first training session next season should be in the class room .

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Average age 22 reportedly.'"


Yes Radford said that when interviewed after the game. Without working it out I would be surprised if he is right
although it's pleasing to see a decent number of academy products in the team.

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Quote: fc baldy "Signs that Radford may finally be getting it right,we attacked from the off and scored some bloody good try's,just stupid mistakes by individuals cost us tonight...Something Radford can't control.'"

It's too easy to absolve all the blame from the coaching set up though, Radford and his team DO have a direct hand in how the players behave/perform on field otherwise why even have a coach team right?

individuals make mistakes for many reasons, as a coach you have to address all the problems that seem to crop up time and time again, and for us those issues do keep cropping up.

fatigue -lack of fitness/too many minutes or not being spelled correctly/playing with injury
mental preparation/mental attitude, being able to focus during times of duress, not switching off, decision making, all things that the coaching team need to re-inforce and use strategies to reduce those actions/thoughts that act as negatives.
Basic Skills, simple yet critical aspects have being critisised by many on the forums relating to the players performance/ability to perform the basics.

Whilst players have to take responsibility for their actions/how they play, it's a collective responsibility, the inexperience/lack of understanding & the way the coaching team do things does has had an impact on why & how many errors we make, how we string together our play, that is reflective of the overall seasons performance. Inconsistant, ranging from sublime to the downright horrible and this match was another of those games that mirror that inconsistancy of the season .

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Looking at the title of this thread! 4 times we beat you this season, 3 times at your place. Each time prior to the game saying you were gonna give it to us.

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Quote: sgtwilko "Looking at the title of this thread! 4 times we beat you this season, 3 times at your place. Each time prior to the game saying you were gonna give it to us.'"

Bore off, fans have said we'd give it a good go, you think we are going to say the players can't be d we'll get battered by X points d040.gif
I think ONE poster predicted a win last night, the fact we basically handed at least two tries to you on a plate and you essentially beat us by that difference says for the most part we held our own.
Well done on a great season, hope you get battered by the red & white e next week, now mickey off back to your own board

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And last but not least, to all those people who wrote this team off. To all those people who critisized this team...tonight's for you. K. Sinfield, GF 2011:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45465.jpg



Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Bore off, fans have said we'd give it a good go, you think we are going to say the players can't be d we'll get battered by X points Have you finished having your hissy fit? Your behaviour is not setting a good example to the rest of Hull FC's Letchworth supporters club.

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Quote: fc baldy "Agree and the kick off killed us as well.Houghtons pass was diabolical and shows his distribution up again.'"


Poor errors but at the kick off that led to the try Hall was miles offside. As for Briscoe's try at 22 - 24 I think he was confused about which team he played for as he was so far offside he was virtually stood in our attacking line!

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Quote: mikey471 "Poor errors but at the kick off that led to the try Hall was miles offside. As for Briscoe's try at 22 - 24 I think he was confused about which team he played for as he was so far offside he was virtually stood in our attacking line!'"




You might want to check the highlights, pause at the point the ball is played for briscoes try and his feet are on his own try line.

The highlights don't show Hall in the shot on the ko but would be surprised if he was 'miles' offside in that situation and is actually behind the other chasers when he comes into shot.

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Quote: spegs "Is there a more overrated player in SL than Danny Houghton? His distribution in the opposition 10 is nothing short of laughable. Part of the problem rather than the solution.'"


You are one of the biggest pessimists on this board, but, unfortunately, on this one I agree.
The club's mentality is ingrained through Dannys endeavours.
We'll struggle to step up with him as our 9.

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



In many ways last night was a microcosm of our entire season, and indeed of the club's position at this moment in time. Enthusiastic with good workrate, flashes of attacking invention but too often let down by basic errors at crucial moments which ultimately cost us dearly. The errors leading to Hall & Briscoe's tries proved to be the difference in the end, both times we looked as if we were about to take control of the game only to hand it straight back to Leeds on a plate.

Last night showed why we are a 7th/8th placed team and not one aiming for the big prizes. We can play well in short bursts but we simply are not consistent enough to really challenge, but then we knew that already, didn't we!

At least we've shown some desire and commitment to the Super 8's so far. After the Wigan game I think we were worried that the team would simply put their feet up for the remaining games, but they have competed in all three games so far.

After we'd qualified for the top 8's I posted that all I wanted to see was a decent level of energy and commitment to the competition with hopefully some expansive Rugby along the way to entertain us a little bit. I would say that so far the players have fulfilled that criteria. We were never going make the top 4, that was always a given, but we at least look as if we still care, and we have scored some of our best tries of the season in recent weeks.

Realistically, this is the best we can hope for right now. We are what we are, a fair to middling half decent reasonable side who occasionally punch above our weight. In 2015 that is what we are, no more no less.

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Quote: BP1 "In many ways last night was a microcosm of our entire season, and indeed of the club's position at this moment in time. Enthusiastic with good workrate, flashes of attacking invention but too often let down by basic errors at crucial moments which ultimately cost us dearly. The errors leading to Hall & Briscoe's tries proved to be the difference in the end, both times we looked as if we were about to take control of the game only to hand it straight back to Leeds on a plate.

Last night showed why we are a 7th/8th placed team and not one aiming for the big prizes. We can play well in short bursts but we simply are not consistent enough to really challenge, but then we knew that already, didn't we!

At least we've shown some desire and commitment to the Super 8's so far. After the Wigan game I think we were worried that the team would simply put their feet up for the remaining games, but they have competed in all three games so far.

After we'd qualified for the top 8's I posted that all I wanted to see was a decent level of energy and commitment to the competition with hopefully some expansive Rugby along the way to entertain us a little bit. I would say that so far the players have fulfilled that criteria. We were never going make the top 4, that was always a given, but we at least look as if we still care, and we have scored some of our best tries of the season in recent weeks.

Realistically, this is the best we can hope for right now. We are what we are, a fair to middling half decent reasonable side who occasionally punch above our weight. In 2015 that is what we are, no more no less.'"

Great summary. Question is whether we'll be stronger next year - I would hope we will be via both solid recruitment and valuable experience for our U19s at SL level. If so, can we move up from 7-8 to push up to 5-6 against Huddersfield, Wire, Cas?

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: mikey471 "Poor errors but at the kick off that led to the try Hall was miles offside. As for Briscoe's try at 22 - 24 I think he was confused about which team he played for as he was so far offside he was virtually stood in our attacking line!'"

Ah I see, you lost coz of cheating Rhinos and the ref.

Typical cod head reaction.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Question is whether we'll be stronger next year - I would hope we will be via both solid recruitment and valuable experience for our U19s at SL level. If so, can we move up from 7-8 to push up to 5-6 against Huddersfield, Wire, Cas?'"


Would hope so, but you, me and everyone else on this board have been saying this for the last five years and still we wait for the big breakthrough.

My post above, along with your reply, could have been placed on this board at anytime since 2010! and we are still no nearer to achieving our goals.

Still, I guess the recent years of frustration won't stop any of us hoping/believing/praying/arguing/fighting/cursing until we finally get it right! I agree with you that 2016 looks promising, but we've been at this point too many times in this decade to ever get fully carried away icon_smile.gif .

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Quote: BP1 "Would hope so, but you, me and everyone else on this board have been saying this for the last five years and still we wait for the big breakthrough.

My post above, along with your reply, could have been placed on this board at anytime since 2010! and we are still no nearer to achieving our goals.

Still, I guess the recent years of frustration won't stop any of us hoping/believing/praying/arguing/fighting/cursing until we finally get it right! I agree with you that 2016 looks promising, but we've been at this point too many times in this decade to ever get fully carried away I don't think wondering whether improving our league position by 1-2 is getting carried away. I do feel more optimism than this point last year when we finished 11th but like the vast majority of supporters of all teams hope is rarely backed up. My main concern is getting re-energised by more expansive play in the current dead rubbers only to go back to extreme conservatism when there are meaningful points at stake next year.

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