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Quote: Kosh "I enjoy pageantry. You don't need a Royal Family to indulge in it'"

Other "pageants" I've experienced were dull in extremis though, IMO. I've been to the Edinburgh Military Tattoo and the Notting Hill Carnival. Neither were in the same league as yesterday's event IMO.
Quote: Kosh "If you think that the Royal Family wield no [ireal[/i power then you're rather naive. Also bear in mind to whom the armed forces swear allegiance - it isn't to the elected government or even the country. Not that I think Charles is about to launch a coup, mind. Come to that, all our sitting politicians swear allegiance to the Crown rather than the country and the people who elected them.'"

Maybe I am naive, but the bit underlined is the key point for me. I won't be going mad celebrating Charles' accession to the throne as I'm not a fan of his at all, but I don't think he's likely to interfere in our democratically elected government. Is it archaic that an outgoing Prime Minister has to tender his resignation to the monarch? Yes. Not really a major concern of mine though.

Quote: Kosh "The cost isn't a big issue for me [iper se[/i as an elected head of state would have to be financed and would most likely come out at a similar level. There is a lot of money wasted on hangers on though. It may not add up to much per head of population but added together could be usefully spent elsewhere.'"

I agree that there are a lot of hangers on and that the Queen should fund the likes of Andrew, Anne, Edward etc. I also think that it's not an unreasonable amount that she gets from the Civil List - £7.9m a year. There are plenty of other draws on the public purse of pretty questionable worth IMO.


Quote: Kosh "I do have an issue with being a subject rather than a citizen, and with the whole feudal system that appends from the Royals. It's archaic and should have no place in a 21st century democracy.'"

Fair enough. Not a big issue for me.

Quote: Kosh "I'd like to see the Royals 'retired' and GB become a Republic with an elected head of state. An arrangement could be made where they paid for the upkeep of those properties that they have exclusive use of while other properties pass to the state and are paid for from state funds. You can still have the pageantry but we can finally grow up as a country and start looking forward instead of back.'"

I'm OK with the status quo. The Royals might be an "unnecessary" layer of the constitution, but I don't see they actually have a real and material impact on the political landscape of the country. I do enjoy a sense of national identity and belonging, and enjoyed the fact that yesterday Britain was the centre of the world for a lovely occasion, perfectly executed, which, whilst not "uniting" the country, did serve as a focus for some very British forms of eccentric celebration including duck-racing, 1950s party games and morris dancing. If you can suggest something similar or better in the post-Royal republic, fair enough, but it'll have to go some to top 1 million on the streets of London yesterday. Sitting indoors with the curtains drawn listening to Morrissey and trying to remember the last time the Queen actively influenced public policy doesn't count. That last bit was TIC, for the avoidance of doubt. I think. icon_wink.gif icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "They dont run the country!!
like i said though MY experience of our friends across the pond is they would love a royal family AND most see our royal family as their royal family also because like our other friends across the globe they are just another ex british colony with a different accent, remember not to sing the national anthem at the four nations mind icon_smile.gif

Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "For admirers of the lovely Pippa Middleton.'"


Wonder if she was commando or a G string stuck between those peachy buttocks...no knicker line visible at all.......bet harry was thinking like father like son icon_wink.gif

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Quote: fc baldy "Wonder if she was commando or a G string stuck between those peachy buttocks...no knicker line visible at all.......bet harry was thinking like father like son
I thought Harry might've got his dad an invite to the wedding. eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "I thought Harry might've got his dad an invite to the wedding.
Ouch. Touche my friend.

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Quote: Kosh "For clarity, I meant that having a Royal Family and an unelected head of state was no way to run a country, not that the Royal Family [iactually[/i run the country. Although they have more influence than some think.'"
I fail to see their importance in the day to day running of our country. Maybe you could explain this "influence" they have towards this?

Quote: Kosh "No American I have ever spoken to would want the Royal Family. Liking something from a distance is not the same as wanting it yourself. They're quite happy to admire from afar, and not all of them even do that.'"
Having American family and living there for a while, its hardly a surprise they say this. It would mean admitting the way they do things is wrong. I also don't think the Americans are particularly representative of the whole world.

Quote: Kosh "I did enjoy the day off. I even had the wedding on TV, although I had to mute the sound during some of the more nauseatingly fawning parts of the coverage. That's not unique to the Royals mind - you get similar with coverage of any 'celebrity'. I don't want to get rid of the Royals completely, I just don't want them to be part of our system of government.'"
Again, what real part do they play?

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Loved every minute of it makes a change from seeing loads of mothers with kids with different dads also taking our taxes and do f.all for it . So call me every thing under the sun I dont give a t**s

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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "ANYWAY it was a nice day and most folk enjoyed it'"

exactly, and i know i enjoyed it icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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