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| havent really read previous posts and pages so dont have a go, all this quota non quota bussiness all got scrapped and changes to fed and non fed now players like galea,vella ect count as fed trained because they were here before the new rule was introduced so how on earth does mason count as fed trained it dosent matter wether hes got an tongan passport so has moa and lauaki but they still class as non fed
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| Quote arliebird="arliebird"havent really read previous posts and pages so dont have a go, all this quota non quota bussiness all got scrapped and changes to fed and non fed now players like galea,vella ect count as fed trained because they were here before the new rule was introduced so how on earth does mason count as fed trained it dosent matter wether hes got an tongan passport so has moa and lauaki but they still class as non fed'"
That's the point, they're fed now, so we have 3 spare quota spots.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"That's the point, they're fed now, so we have 3 spare quota spots.'"
thanks for that, well the rfl have made a right joke of this then. right then lets just sign a load of aussies get them a tongan passport and get them over here 
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"That's the point, they're fed now, so we have 3 spare quota spots.'" [urlhttp://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?page_id=4027[/url
Might be worth some clarification from the club?
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| The thing is, you can't limit a team to players 'just because they are foreign' and as we are part of the EU you cannot deny ANY EU person entry/work.
Can you however do one of the next 2 things:
1. Effectively charge per non-UK player. ie: You can have as many Aussies, NZs or Tongans as you like but it costs 25/50k per 'quota' player from the salary cap thus limiting your financial capabilities.
2. A player becomes 'homegrown' after completing 4 full seasons at one club (transferred players would have this reset to 0) so maybe eventually you could have loads of 'foreigners' but would encourage to at least give longer terms contracts, which clubs would be unlikely to want to do with older players, and thus encourage the use of younger players from abroad. Only 3 players at any one time on the 'non-homegrown' lists
ATEOTD, Aussies have been coming over for a final contract/paycheque. If any players really want to test themselves in the Superleague, they will have to do it earlier or while they are in their prime!!
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| So if all this is true why was Melli of St.Helens [not George frozen out by the visa people, when infact had a job and by EEC law was entitled to come and work here???
Can he now take them to the European court and claim loss of pay and inconvience money.
Hell of a can of worms some one is opening up here.
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| Have just emailed the club asking about Sam Moa and Lauaki getting dispensation to become Fed trained, freeing up 2 non fed spots in the squad.
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| They should just bring a ruling out that 12 of the 17 need to be EU trained as per the old/currentish rules. Let teams have as many foreign players as they like but they can only play 5 in any game. Clubs wont want to stockpile aussies etc if they have to pay they but cant play them. Its not stopping any player from employment then is it?
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Have just emailed the club asking about Sam Moa and Lauaki getting dispensation to become Fed trained, freeing up 2 non fed spots in the squad.'"
I thought everyone was upset about British players not been having opportunities in the game? Why would we want three more overseas?
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| Quote Forever FC="Forever FC"They should just bring a ruling out that 12 of the 17 need to be EU trained as per the old/currentish rules. Let teams have as many foreign players as they like but they can only play 5 in any game. Clubs wont want to stockpile aussies etc if they have to pay they but cant play them. Its not stopping any player from employment then is it?'"
I'm sure some argument could be made for un-equal opportunities.
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Have just emailed the club asking about Sam Moa and Lauaki getting dispensation to become Fed trained, freeing up 2 non fed spots in the squad.'"
Me too. Something or someone (you'd have thought the RFL) must have led the club to believe that Lauaki and Moa are non fed trained, though. Lauaki got a Tongan passport too, there was a delay with the whole speaking English test that it entails. Would be interesting to see a list of all the players at all clubs split into homegrown, British, Quota, Exempt (pre 2008), etc.
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"I thought everyone was upset about British players not been having opportunities in the game? Why would we want three more overseas?'"
You're right but I think people are making the point that it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time to invest in youth whereae it is a lot cheaper to import players who play at a higher skill/fitness-level: not world-beaters but better than a 17 year old. So why bother if it doesn't count for anything in the domestic league? Why not just bring 'em all over and don't worry about youth?
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