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| Quote: A unknown superstar "That 2004 team was a brilliant attacking team. Was great to watch, just how nice would it to have Panther back. I will never forget his his BIG hit on Penkywiz (spelling) from Halifax. Smashed him mid air! ![]()
I'm going to use that as my sigicon_smile.gif
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Also in that team was Lupton.......he was very good for us and vastly under-rated.
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| Quote: Whiting "I'm going to use that as my sig
You can't it's copy writed. 
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "You can't it's copy writed. ![]()
I'll give you a cookie for it!
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Thats certainly a good point and one that is certainly confirmed when I looked at the list of 2004 players!!'"
But you are a Grade a lover Wilf?? |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "My recollection is that pretty much everyone wanted him to stay but he wanted to try his hand in the NRL.
Interesting comparison between his time with us and his time with saints. he left saints after one GF win (I think) but left them with the seeds of a great team that went on to dominate the game with a succession of top quality coaches and acquisitions, whereas he left us with the seeds of a top class side which went on to a cup win, appear in a GF and has then been systematically dismantled by a succession of inferior coaches, poor recruitment and incompetent management at the club'"
Superbly put Jake.  |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "My recollection is that pretty much everyone wanted him to stay but he wanted to try his hand in the NRL.'"
I think most wanted him to stay. There were a few vocal refuseniks who wanted him gone because we'd won nowt despite his 5 year plan and he spent too much time on Sky.  |
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| Quote: fc baldy "Also in that team was Lupton.......he was very good for us and vastly under-rated.'"
the difference with the side then was the backup players like Lupton had some creativity, same with some of the underrated starting players like Mcmenemy who could kick (on the last tackle etc) if necessary. Now our squad just has workhorses.
as for Mcrae, I'll admit at the time I wondered if he'd taken us as far as he could, but I'd have him back right now, at least the rugby was entertaining to watch and he is a likable person when talking to the media. |
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| completely agree with that assumption...i also thought mcrae had taken us as far as he could, but i would take them days back right now...when we signed people like best and ritchie barnett( the good one) best was a young up and coming winger wanting to earn a deal in the nrl, so he had every reason to play to his maximum, he never missed a game in 2 years!!! and as for burnett, he was one of the best backs in the comp when we signed him, dont get me wrong mcrae still signed afew plodders ie sean ryan etc but our signings now seem awful compared to back then...
but looking at our squad now, the players mcrae had whilst at the club ie: horne,raynor,yeaman,king etc, i ask myself do any of these players have anything to prove to anyone?? they certainly will never be dropped no-matter how bad we play...maybe its time to get rid of afew players who seem not to be putting in a proper shift for fc....  |
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| Quote: berro's best mate "completely agree with that assumption...i also thought mcrae had taken us as far as he could, but i would take them days back right now...when we signed people like best and ritchie barnett( the good one) best was a young up and coming winger wanting to earn a deal in the nrl, so he had every reason to play to his maximum, he never missed a game in 2 years!!! and as for burnett, he was one of the best backs in the comp when we signed him, dont get me wrong mcrae still signed afew plodders ie sean ryan etc but our signings now seem awful compared to back then...
but looking at our squad now, the players mcrae had whilst at the club iei ask myself do any of these players have anything to prove to anyone?? they certainly will never be dropped no-matter how bad we play...maybe its time to get rid of afew players who seem not to be putting in a proper shift for fc.... ![]()
money wasn't as good then though to be fair, I don't think we were using the full salary cap until 2004 (after a year at the KC) but the squad was far more balanced back then.
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| Quote: Raggytash "Calderwood - Never gets used, but in the 2004 team would of scored as many as Best did.
No way, however great you think Calders is, he's nowhere near the class Col Best was/is. Besty would start in most NRL sides.'"
Besty won best winger in the NRL last season |
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| Quote: berro's best mate "completely agree with that assumption...i also thought mcrae had taken us as far as he could, but i would take them days back right now...when we signed people like best and ritchie barnett( the good one) best was a young up and coming winger wanting to earn a deal in the nrl, so he had every reason to play to his maximum, he never missed a game in 2 years!!! and as for burnett, he was one of the best backs in the comp when we signed him, dont get me wrong mcrae still signed afew plodders ie sean ryan etc but our signings now seem awful compared to back then...
but looking at our squad now, the players mcrae had whilst at the club ie: horne,raynor,yeaman,king etc, i ask myself do any of these players have anything to prove to anyone?? they certainly will never be dropped no-matter how bad we play...maybe its time to get rid of afew players who seem not to be putting in a proper shift for fc.... ![]()
Thought he was quite good in his first season with us, would have said he was one of Mcraes better signings tbh i rated him
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| Quote: Raggytash "Calderwood - Never gets used, but in the 2004 team would of scored as many as Best did.
No way, however great you think Calders is, he's nowhere near the class Col Best was/is. Besty would start in most NRL sides.'"
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| Quote: Whiting "Besty won best winger in the NRL last season'"
I'd like to point out I was quoting 'A unknown superstar'. I know full well that Calders isn't fit to clean Besty's boots! |
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| Quote: Raggytash "I'd like to point out I was quoting 'A unknown superstar'. I know full well that Calders isn't fit to clean Besty's boots!'"
I never said he was. But look at Calders during his time at Leeds, he scored loads of tries and in the 2004 team I'm sure he wouldn't of been for off again. |
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