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Quote: WIZEB "Just some other tripe for him to harp on about and deflect from having his pants pulled down, once again.


He's a qualified nit picker.

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Quote: me 'n' our kid "Nothing sinister/cynical mate just that your post was handy to quote as you said you couldn't find pitch details...no dramas
No worries

I did used to wonder about rhe term "Wide open spaces of Wembley". Pitches in both RL and Soccer have a minimum and a maximum playing area.

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Somebody was nitpicking about the pitch to counter what I had said about Pritchard's fitness. I made a factual statement based on dimensions of the pitch, why not ask the person who was nitpicking saying the wembley pitch wasn't bigger when it fact it is.
Pritchard is still not fit and a bigger pitch even if by 3metres isn't going to make that any better, that interesting enough for you?
If you don't like debate about subject matters naff off somewhere else and spoil other threads as you continually do.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Somebody was nitpicking about the pitch to counter what I had said about Pritchard's fitness. I made a factual statement based on dimensions of the pitch, why not ask the person who was nitpicking saying the wembley pitch wasn't bigger when it fact it is.
Pritchard is still not fit and a bigger pitch even if by 3metres isn't going to make that any better, that interesting enough for you?
If you don't like debate about subject matters naff off somewhere else and spoil other threads as you continually do.'"


How about the debate on the Radford thread where you were outed as a bare-faced liar before disappearing? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Somebody was nitpicking about the pitch to counter what I had said about Pritchard's fitness. I made a factual statement based on dimensions of the pitch, why not ask the person who was nitpicking saying the wembley pitch wasn't bigger when it fact it is.
Pritchard is still not fit and a bigger pitch even if by 3metres isn't going to make that any better, that interesting enough for you?
If you don't like debate about subject matters naff off somewhere else and spoil other threads as you continually do.'"




In my best Robert DeNiro impersonation....You talking to me?

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Quote: me 'n' our kid "In my best Robert DeNiro impersonation....You talking to me?'"


Or me? Or any of the dozens of fans who are sick to death of your pontifications.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Somebody was nitpicking about the pitch to counter what I had said about Pritchard's fitness. I made a factual statement based on dimensions of the pitch, why not ask the person who was nitpicking saying the wembley pitch wasn't bigger when it fact it is.
Pritchard is still not fit and a bigger pitch even if by 3metres isn't going to make that any better, that interesting enough for you?
If you don't like debate about subject matters naff off somewhere else and spoil other threads as you continually do.'"


You are a complete liar, why don't you stop lying then fans will take you serious, you know nothing about the game.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Somebody was nitpicking about the pitch to counter what I had said about Pritchard's fitness. I made a factual statement based on dimensions of the pitch, why not ask the person who was nitpicking saying the wembley pitch wasn't bigger when it fact it is.
Pritchard is still not fit and a bigger pitch even if by 3metres isn't going to make that any better, that interesting enough for you?
If you don't like debate about subject matters naff off somewhere else and spoil other threads as you continually do.'"



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Do you actually read what you post.

The pitch size issue, which you actually raised, is paramount to your argument.

The Pitch at Wembley maybe longer, but its narrower then the KC pitch. The width of the playing area is a far bigger factor for creating space or gaps to run though past tiring forwards (the point of this thread). Have you checked out the total of square yards???

With regard to spoiling threads, you have made it an olympic event on here.

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In top 2 forwards tonight. Quite a few other forwards didn't bother in contact.

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Quote: Staffs FC "In top 2 forwards tonight. Quite a few other forwards didn't bother in contact.'"


Not sure, poor first spell, great 2nd spell, simalar to others.

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Quote: Dave K. "Not sure, poor first spell, great 2nd spell, simalar to others.'"


Didn't think either of his spells were great. But for me only he and Ellis made the impact required. All other forwards were poor tonight and need to step up again next week. Only 1 week allowed for semi final hangover.

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he cert ran his weight on his second stint, needs to be running wide more and still don't think we seen the best of him yet, hes waiting for Wembley to run amoke

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Mini and frank had a real good split tonight. Franks 1st spell was poor. But whole team was at time
If we can get that impact out of them both over 80 few teams will handle it

Also it was massively noticeable how much more comfortable and effective he looked out wide as opposed to through the middle in recent times

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Well beaten in the forwards in the first half .

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