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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "The thing is he has not used that card at all, and has done nothing but apologised so far,

today seems to be the domain of those who have never sinned , tell you what lets stone him whilst were at it'"


We all forgave him twice, 3 times is taking the proverbial pi$$. Would there be this attitude if it was Ewan Dowes or Danny Washbrook? I tend to think not. The fact some people see him as an integral part of the team seems to be blurring the facts he is not learning from his mistakes.

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Quote: hullbg "We all forgave him twice, 3 times is taking the proverbial pi$$. Would there be this attitude if it was Ewan Dowes or Danny Washbrook? I tend to think not. The fact some people see him as an integral part of the team seems to be blurring the facts he is not learning from his mistakes.'"

To be fair to them both those players would agree Jordan is a naturally very gifted player

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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "To be fair to them both those players would agree Jordan is a naturally very gifted player'"


What has that got to with it? So if a player is naturally gifted we can just brush all their misdemeanors under the carpet. You said about all of us commenting today cannot have sinned before, i pointed out he has sinned twice before and not learnt a damned thing from it.

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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "To be fair to them both those players would agree Jordan is a naturally very gifted player'"


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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "The thing is he has not used that card at all, and has done nothing but apologised so far,

today seems to be the domain of those who have never sinned , tell you what lets stone him whilst were at it'"


Apologized and then been on the disciplinary (twice) again very soon thereafter.

One disciplinary, fair enough, as you say every one makes mistakes. Two would suggest he'd not learnt from the first one, and to have a 3rd reeks of either a) not caring or b) taking the , both of which mean that his "apologies" count for the squareroot of feckall as far as I am concerned.

If he was truely apologetic he'd have not got himself dropped for the playoff game last year, or the Cas game this year.

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Quote: Neil HFC "Apologized and then been on the disciplinary (twice) again very soon thereafter.

One disciplinary, fair enough, as you say every one makes mistakes. Two would suggest he'd not learnt from the first one, and to have a 3rd reeks of either a) not caring or b) taking the mickey, both of which mean that his "apologies" count for the squareroot of feckall as far as I am concerned.

If he was truely apologetic he'd have not got himself dropped for the playoff game last year, or the Cas game this year.'"

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If what we think we know is true, then he has to go.

He has had too many chances and the club cannot be held to ransom. The rest of the dressing room would surely be p*ssed off with him. Richard Horne comes in a for a lot of criticism on here but last season he was patched up and put on the pitch when he really should have been sat in the stands. Tansey was sat in the stands because of his own ill discipline and stupidity and put undue pressure on his coach and teammates. It's easy to make excuses saying that he's young, etc. but at the end of the day he is a fully grown adult who is very well rewarded for what he does.

I presume the delay is due to the club ensuring that due process is carried out; nowadays terminating somebodies contract is not straightforward. Any mistake on the employers part would be deemed as unfair dismissal which can be expensive.

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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "The thing is he has not used that card at all, and has done nothing but apologised so far,

today seems to be the domain of those who have never sinned , tell you what lets stone him whilst were at it'"


FFS my heart bleeds!!!

If it had been a first offence then people would give him a quite rightly a chance but when he has had 12 months since his first incident to sort himself out and he obviously hasnt leart from the first chance or second chance people quite rightly feel a little p!$$ed of with him. To be up on a 3rd disciplinary 5 months after the last just takes the biscuit so close to the season opener too plus been thin on the ground player wise.
If reports of him been off his face again in Leeds over the weekend are true then he really is sorry isnt he? Unless he is sorry for himself so his apologies in essence mean nothing.

Oh and for the record yes I have sinned as you put it but I had the sense to learn from it and move on not repeat the trick like most decent people who value their living whether they enjoy it or not.

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The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley.

I'm not whiter than white, but like Chris just said, any mistakes i've made i've learnt from. I don't think Jordan has the respect for himself or the common sense to see what a privileged position he is in.

If it's the people around him that are leading him astray then he needs to sack them off quickly....just look at Gazza....he had a team of 'hangers on' and look what happened to him!

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Quote: Seph "The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley.

I'm not whiter than white, but like Chris just said, any mistakes i've made i've learnt from. I don't think Jordan has the respect for himself or the common sense to see what a privileged position he is in.

If it's the people around him that are leading him astray then he needs to sack them off quickly....just look at Gazza....he had a team of 'hangers on' and look what happened to him!'"


Gazza is a very good comparison to be fair, because of a lack of help and guidance he became a serial visitor to AC clinics and still is!! a genius now burnt out with a lifeclock ticking ten times faster than most folk!!!
what everyone is conviniently forgetting is that i most certainly do not agree with his actions or his way of life AND knowing his circle of friends i without doubt want to bang his head against the wall however that does not take away the fact that if he has a problem with drink he needs help not bagging because bagging will make that issue worse by the day .
No i am not his dad his keeper or his councellor but i do see both sides of the fence on this one and feel sorry for the lad as is my opinion and were all entitled to them but my stance is not a beligerent one over Jordan and neither is it to cause termoil on the thread but only because my style is to try to see the best in everyone and i hate to see anyone suffering especially someone so talented as Jordan ...

BUT I DO NOT CONDONE OR SUPPORT HIS ACTIONS

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Quote: Seph "The reports from Saturday are 100% true...he may well have been to a wedding in Pudsey, but then went on the The Box in Headingley. quote]

So in reality its usual actions from a young fella leaving a family wedding isnt it??maybe he went out afterwards??
thats his choice and i am not his keeper

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I presume the delay is due to the club ensuring that due process is carried out; nowadays terminating somebodies contract is not straightforward. Any mistake on the employers part would be deemed as unfair dismissal which can be expensive.'"


He was with the Chiefs today with his legal people for e meeting, like i said earlier I do not condone his actions at all but feel sorry for the lad , obviously a minority but i wonder how others would feel if they had folk beying for blood to have them sacked like some on here ... if he gets the sack then he has deserved it and been his own worst enemy but i just see a lot in the kid worth salvaging IMO.
BUT as i said i am led to believe he will be playing somewhere else very shortly

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