Well said Hutchie and agree 100%.

Have you never gone on the lash with your boss?

Has one of your work mates never been promoted above you?

Good post Hutchie sums up my thoughts. For me PG has changed the club for the better and improved alot of things. We have to remember the sorry state of affairs the club was in when AP bought it and PG came in.

The players especially the senior ones have let the club down and PG & AP with the certain performances they have thropn out and it is clear to see as even without a coach a pro team would have put a better performance and shift in than they did on Thursday night.

If I'm honest I would say PG has been shafted from within by certain members and if he has I hope anyone involved is shown the door.

There may be some conspiracy going on , we'll probably never know. I think it's more likely to be about communication though. Gentle had been used to coaching the elite of Australian RL players most of whom as well as being skilled athletes were also pretty bright and able to understand quickly and instinctively what a coach wanted. That was hugely different from coaching a disparate bunch of Super League players who range form decent experienced players to being green and thick and all grades in between. Maybe a more basic regime is needed? Radford would provide that but I just can't see how you can keep people who have been part of the failed coaching set up especially as they've been involved in previous failures as well.

Sack/Appoint/Fail/Repeat. It's getting boring.

I'm sorry it didn't happen for Gentle. We need a change, but I don't think Radders can provide it. I hope I'm wrong.

Sad to see PG go. I want to thank him for all his hard work, and being a true gent, but after Thursdays performance it was on the cards. If only some of the rumours are true, he hasn't been the first coach to be stabbed in the back at Hull FC, I just hope he's the last.
Radford for me is not the answer, maybe if it was a couple of years in the future, but not now. On the issue of Cooke being involved, wouldn't bother me too much if he did a good job.
I'll back the club whatever, but I'm not overly happy with events it has to be said.

Sorry but this is a massive over-reaction unless PG wanted out himself.

Undue pressure from fans/Owner, unrealistic targets (we have no right to win anything). If fans think things were just going to improve massively in 2 years from the awful situation we had then you're bonkers.
Yet overall we have improved, both on and off the field, despite many people who want to ignore aspects that don't suit their agenda's

To think we can just start winning stuff with the squad we have is/was unrealistic and yet we were a performance away from doing just that despite some horrible injury luck.

I think Holdsworth is still affected by his head injury and isn't the man for the job in the halves, the fact we had no real back up halves to slot in and had to bring in a massive gamble in Millar shows how desperate we were.

Whether there is/has been disharmony in the dressing room I have no idea but franly I don't see it, saying that some players just aren't mentally tough enough and this spreads like a disease on the field, I think we desperately need a sports pyschologist because the defeat last thursday (or rather the manner) reeked of players that were gone mentally after 15 minutes as opposed to just being physically outplayed.
This defeatist/losing it in the head attitude has being on display before (it happens to a lot of clubs/players through a season).

ATEOTD getting rid now is just such a big mistake, fans here were saying winning the CC/getting to the final was just papering over the cracks, FFS, we got to a final, only one club other than Wigan can actually better our season in terms of being in a final and winning something. Some might see this as but we DID reach a final with some oustanding performances.
and unless we get someone who can win us a trophy next year then the disjointed situation of turning over a head coach too readily will mean more misery for fans over the next two plus years

Good luck Peter, you took a lot of flak for some inept player performances and a huge swathe of bad luck.

Agree and believe it's another sad day for our club after all the fanfare of 2 years ago, the cancer within has to be eradicated once and for all if we are to move forward.

I always presumed that the cancer that McRae alluded to all those years ago was Kath and co but I can't help but feel that it runs deeper than that.

To were though, there are no players left at the club from that era that McRae spoke about.

I always thought it was the players but think its something about the culture of the club that remains the same even when personnel change.

Or is it we fans? Is it the weight of our expectations? Our insistence that we are a "big club" when the reality is that our glory days were nearly 30 years ago and we are a well supported but average, mid table club, the Newcastle United of Super League?

Why?? Ellis, Holdsworth an McDonnell are still there.

He's played with Ellis an other 2 fellow Aussies.

As for Gentle, even though his record doesn't state it. He's done alot more for us then any of our last 3 in my opinion.
He's laid down the foundations (Aswel As AP) with our youth structure, training facilities and our own HB school. Hes brought in 5 youngsters from academy an even though some are still up for question, at least he showed faith in them.

I for one is sad to see him go, as i think he could of offered so much more if only the team had not let him down.

Thats why I have major reservations as to promoting Radford to Head Coach as he was the Captain during our other poor performing seasons and has very limited coaching experience at SL level and I have doubts over his ability to remove himself from the players as a Head Coach rather than a mate.

I also still think certain senior members of the sqaud are payed way over the odds for what they have offered not just this but previous seasons.

Ultimately time will tell is Gentle going is the right decision, for me although the jury was still out on Gentle I think him going is and will prove the wrong one if the rumoured coaching appointments come to fruition.

One or 2 occasiosn, nothing regular and usually when its him paying

Had people promoted above, they f**ked the job up and i had to pick up the piece or had to come and ask me how things should be done

Me too.

Unfortunately, there are some one here who believe everything they read, and today the ifs and rumours are now being debated as facts.

Radford and Cooke have suffered from the same kind of misinformation for years.

I've been watching Hull for 55 years and don't lose any sleep when Rovers lose, but reading this forum you can sense a real hatred from some posters, not just against the opposition but now against people who are a part of Hull FC.