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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Well, until the universities get rid of all the mickey mouse degrees this is unfortunately going to keep happening.'"
Which is exactly why students shouldn't get money thrown at them
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| Quote: Sheldon "What exactly are you trying to tell me?
I don't care who the club subsidise, I don't care of the price of any ones season pass.
If they can't afford one they have to find more money by either earning more or cutting out other luxaries.
What's so difficult to understand?'"
You've changed your tune since you wrote 'I don't think they should get a discount'.
Now suddenly you don't care, why have you changed your mind?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Which is exactly why students shouldn't get money thrown at them'"
But then you're punishing the majority who do need certain degrees.
And I hardly think repayable loans is 'throwing money at them'.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "But then you're punishing the majority who do need certain degrees.
And I hardly think repayable loans is 'throwing money at them'.'"
It is if there's no realistic chance of them ever getting a meaningful job which will give them the income to repay it.
There are far too many people at university for the real graduate calibre jobs available
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "NHS is the 4th highest employer in the world..(Chinese Army, Indian Railway, Walmart are the ones above). Nurses have had to be University educated for several years most going to University to do a diploma, from 2015 nurses have to have a degree, answering your question how many grads go into health sector, if you take a University which has a health school (Hull for example) there will be approximatley 300 graduates studying nursing each cohort, no other degree course has anywhere near these figures, plus medical students find it difficult to find part-time work to subsidise their money as they spend 50% of their time on placement working long hours without pay.So I would say a very high percentage of grads go into healthcare.'"
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How many NHS are non graduates though??
And McDonalds arent far behind so id say there will be as many working at Asda and Maccy D's as there is become Doctors & Nurses
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Your argument doesn't make sense, why would you go through uni to just accept £20k per year?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "You've changed your tune since you wrote 'I don't think they should get a discount'.
Now suddenly you don't care, why have you changed your mind?'"
No I haven't, my opinion hasn't changed because I don't care, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.
But my full quote was
'I don't even think students 'should' get a discount but can see why they do.'
By that I don't see how their different to the sick or the active job seekers, but can see why they do for retention purposes.
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| Quote: Hutchie "www.straightstatistics.org/article/questionable-claims-graduate-pay
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The award for missing the point, goes to....
That's a first year after finishing your degree, people then go on to other professional qualifications. Ask Mrs. B if when she finished her training contract for her ACA/ACCA within 2 to 3 years of graduating if she was still on £23k. You'll probably find its closer to £40k.
How many Doctors or Solicitors do you know still on below £30k?
All but the last half a dozen of those are probably still higher than most people earn who decided to leave education at 16.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "The award for missing the point, goes to....
That's a first year after finishing your degree, people then go on to other professional qualifications. Ask Mrs. B if when she finished her training contract for her ACA/ACCA within 2 to 3 years of graduating if she was still on £23k. You'll probably find its closer to £40k.
How many Doctors or Solicitors do you know still on below £30k?
All but the last half a dozen of those are probably still higher than most people earn who decided to leave education at 16.'"
You could have replied with how a graduate treats statistics, who presented them, who manipulated them, then expanded on why and the pitfalls of both quantitative and qualitative research, but I understand why you did not
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Student seem to get everything a the working class expense.'"
Really?
Maybe you could list all this stuff that students get and exactly how much it costs the 'working class'? Or have you just swallowed the crap the media and Government are peddling wholesale?
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| Thought there was a surplus of nurses already and 50,000 NHS jobs at risk. Not sure it's a career move I'd be making unless I was looking to move overseas
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| Quote: Kosh "Really?
Maybe you could list all this stuff that students get and exactly how much it costs the 'working class'? Or have you just swallowed the crap the media and Government are peddling wholesale?'"
Who covers the interest on the loans?
Who foots the bill for the unpaid loans?
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| Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Who covers the interest on the loans?
Who foots the bill for the unpaid loans?'"
The Student, when he/she repays their loan. According to Hutchies link the average starting salary for a graduate is 25k - 29k so most students start repayments on their first job.
The banks probably, they issue the loan the same as they would to you or I.
Persons with degrees statistically earn more and contribute more to the economy and taxes through earning and spending.
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| Quote: Phil O'Stein "The Student, when he/she repays their loan. According to Hutchies link the average starting salary for a graduate is 25k - 29k so most students start repayments on their first job.
The banks probably, they issue the loan the same as they would to you or I.
Persons with degrees statistically earn more and contribute more to the economy and taxes through earning and spending.'"
But not all of them.. And if they get made redundant/lose their job they stop paying. The loans are under written by the government so therefor 'non-payments' are covered by the taxpayer.
I know a few people with degress who work normal/lower paid jobs.
Anyway.. the point has been missed completely here. I don't mind that students get these loans as, as you say, they 'potentially' contribute more to taxes though not necessarily alot more but it's the point that they claim poverty and get over 35% of an Hull FC season pass and discounts on almost everything they buy, when 'workers like myself pay more for everything even though they will be much more comfortable when they become a higher earner.
It's the simple thing of this country in 'looking after' the rich and the poor can cover it... just in a different guise.
Maybe the reason these discounts are around is that these businesses know that there's alot of 'spare' cash bouncing around and that they all wanna get a piece of it!!
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