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Quote: hull2524 "no problem criticise the club or players, but to do it more or less all the time does get my gander up, as I said when you can tell if we are winning or losing by just noting whose on here says it all, if we are getting beat tomorrow it will be you 2 sprouting of about how crap we are, sack Radford etc, we win wont see you at all, imo you try at least to support your club through the rough times,'"


Are you not allowed to support and moan at the same time if you can see that something is wrong? I don't know either of them personally but I assume that they go to matches at least some of the time, buy merchandise etc, and they obviously care and want the club to be the best it can be otherwise they wouldn't be here spreading those opinions. Just because you might be more positive about the club than others it doesn't make you a better supporter. We all want the same thing.

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Are you not allowed to support and moan at the same time if you can see that something is wrong?'"
Problem is, for a few on here, nothing, absolutely nothing, is right about the club. That's the difference.

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Quote: ccs "Problem is, for a few on here, nothing, absolutely nothing, is right about the club. That's the difference.'"


The difference being those of us who criticise or question the club equally give praise when it's due and are not so blinkered.

You and your ilk seem to live in a world where you assume you're the best supporters in the world ever, duck and dive questions and think it's all lollipops and rainbows if you want to start getting critical.
Most people except for a few see the club is struggling and voice their opinions. Like myself it doesn't stop them from being pass holders, going to away games or buying shirts in my case home and away but in your mind I'm less of a fan than you and the other fantasists who instead of airing an opinion on the club attack supporters who do.
I'd not read the Schofield piece before but even I fail to see what he's got wrong other than being a former player who left.
I want to see us winning, being competitive would love to see our first win tomorrow I have even bought tickets for Huddersfield next week but it doesn't stop me having my own opinion or being a fan.

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as I said ive no problem with people criticising the club, or even players, but its when its non stop bilge, just non stop slagging the club players coach etc, all the time, I do wonder why there actually bother,

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I predict a massive loss
That’s not me not supporting the Club
That’s cold hard facts as I see it pre game
I also am prepared to say what I think before a game rather than being wise after the fact
I love the Club
I also think the players are capable of top 4 in the current personnel
I happen to think the coach is the difference at the moment
Losing Fonua Ellis and Watts has exposed the framework of how we play and think

So for now I simply believe a change in coaching is needed and a World class appointment at that not someone running the youth team

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Lets all calm down. Its just opinions on here and if anyone thinks it makes any difference then they're sadly deluded. Let them moan if that's what they want to do or ignore them like I do.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



This forum is miles better when things are going badly you winning two challenge cups turned it into a bore fest for the outsider

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This is a forum
People should not be shot down for negative seemingly negative comments
My calls to replace a coach are actually driven from positivity
All views should be accepted on here
If fans take the time to log in on here then they must be fans
It’s not a crime to call for the coaches head just as it’s not a crime to watch gargbage week after week and blindingly think it will all come good

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "This is a forum
People should not be shot down for negative seemingly negative comments
My calls to replace a coach are actually driven from positivity
All views should be accepted on here
If fans take the time to log in on here then they must be fans
It’s not a crime to call for the coaches head just as it’s not a crime to watch gargbage week after week and blindingly think it will all come good'"

In my opinion for things to improve , we need a new face and voice at the top or the same in the squad which now looks unlikely . Things are stale at the club and the only way this season will improve is one of the above . Even if we’d won the grand final last season , you still need to improve the squad and freshen it up . Enough as been said about the pack on here so pointless going over all ground , but we need new faces and ideas from somewhere.

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My prediction for today is that we will again have a real good dig but just come up short against a team that are much better than us. No shame in that but with the losing streak contuining it will be turned into a much bigger deal. Potentially rightly so as we cant afford to keep the streak going.
But similar to the Cas game we will work hard and be in with a shout but a bit of extra class from Wigan will see them score a couple in the final 10 minutes to take the game away from us. Praying to be wrong though but just cant see us getting the win today.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Absolute rubbish - ive said many positive things about FC but unfortunately our performances are generally pathetic and i say it as i see it rather than glossing over dross - this has been going on much of the 38 years ive been a supporter - every time we seem to be getting there it falls apart and ive become more vocal again because the club have gone and fect it up all yet again - all momentum gained over the last few years thrown in the bin by an inept coaching team.

I was reading through the 'who is bigger, FC or Warrington thread on the VT and lots of opposition fans can see it with most including Wolves fans saying we are the bigger club but continual joke coaching appointments and mismanagement have kept us mid table also rans - a lot think we should be as big as Leeds, Wigan and Saints and that is what i want - an FC team to finally be as good as most opposition fans think we should be and not some joke of rugby league'"


I think it’s quite telling on the “ who’s bigger” thread that there are a few out there stating it oiled be Hull by some distance if we had a decent coach.

I am not a Radford knocker, but when opposition fans say stuff like that, it does make you wonder what we could be with a different coach.

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "I think it’s quite telling on the “ who’s bigger” thread that there are a few out there stating it oiled be Hull by some distance if we had a decent coach.

I am not a Radford knocker, but when opposition fans say stuff like that, it does make you wonder what we could be with a different coach.'"

Wow - weve agreed on something! icon_eek.gif icon_lol.gif

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



And now there's nothing wrong with the squad, so all that hysteria regarding recruitment is a load of baloney.

Crikey.

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Quote: Hasbag "My prediction for today is that we will again have a real good dig but just come up short against a team that are much better than us. No shame in that but with the losing streak contuining it will be turned into a much bigger deal. Potentially rightly so as we cant afford to keep the streak going.
But similar to the Cas game we will work hard and be in with a shout but a bit of extra class from Wigan will see them score a couple in the final 10 minutes to take the game away from us. Praying to be wrong though but just cant see us getting the win today.'"



Weak bench again.Just cant leave it to Ellis to give us 30 minutes of impact

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Agree.

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